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Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 18, 2002, 10:33 PMQuoteGeorge, this website is only to help those who are victimised by poly. care to explain why people are using it to teach others to pass a dope test.
Semen Gary:
Don't blame George or Gino for my mistake. I made the error of bringing up and continuing a chain of posts on a topic that should have never been discussed on this message board.
Moreover, if you would have paid more careful attention to the above chain of posts, you would have noticed that George and Gino pleaded with me to take this topic elsewhere.
I eventually came to my senses and brought an end to the irrelevant topic of passing a drug test, and also brought an end to the games I was playing. I SPECIFICALLY did so because I thought it reflected poorly on the professionalism George and Gino have maintained on this website.
Also, where do you see anything about teaching a person with a dope "record" how to beat the drug test in attempting to get a job with the CIA...?
QuoteNow, folks are teaching somebody with dope record how to beat the dope test and join CIA
Judging from your grasp of the English language, it is easy to understand how you became confused.
As for your comment about America, the fact that nearly every country in the world is striving to become more and more like us is evidence enough of our greatness. I'll bet wherever you are, whatever country your residing in, you can walk out onto the street you live on and find a Mcdonalds within 15 minutes.
Posted by Tse Min Gary
- Apr 18, 2002, 06:55 AMGeorge, this website is only to help those who are victimised by poly. care to explain why people are using it to teach others to pass a dope test. a self-confessed and heavy dope user. don't blame this one on poly cos he confessed voluntarily without anyone even asking him to. First, LAPD waz blamed for hiring someone with records. Now, folks are teaching somebody with dope record how to beat the dope test and join CIA. No wonder there's so much problem in your country. People can't decide what they want. Is that what democracy is all about?
Posted by G Scalabr
- Apr 15, 2002, 07:33 PMOnce again, the marijuana topic is certainly relevant in any forum where law enforcement (and especially law enforcement hiring) is discussed. We just like to keep things organized so those late in joining the discussion can catch up.
Someone please make a marijuana related thread in the off-topic or police (non-polygraph related) forum...
Someone please make a marijuana related thread in the off-topic or police (non-polygraph related) forum...
Posted by marci
- Apr 15, 2002, 05:45 AMCome on people.. let's all be nice here!!! Golly gee cats and dogs I tell ya.. Speaking of cats a pregnant cat came to my door tonight (where I work,.. I work the graveyard shift) I fed her TacoBell and she went away. Anyway that's besides the point.
This is somewhat related to what you guys were arguing about. I work in an office, where there is no physical work whatsoever. We're subject to random drug testing. Every six weeks we have a staff meeting and someone's name is drawn. There are about 20 of us that work here. I don't understand it but it's done regardless. One person has been fired because she failed it, though it didn't harm the way she was doing her job. Anyway first of all there's a fat loophole. Ok the drug tests are every six weeks. That gives everyone two free weeks to get toasted and come up clean for the drug test. I don't do anything illegal, I have a baby and I'm not about to jeapordize my childs well being for any reason, let alone an illegal recreational reason. I believe marijuana should be legalized. I am going to use the cop out everyone else uses. When you're drunk as hell you can't drive, you puke all over the place if you eat anything (burritos especially) you wake up sick, you can die from alcohol poisioning, many people have gone to bed with hot people when they're drunk just to wake up next to a freak. Now what happens when you're high? Who dies of a weed overdose? Who has gone to bed with a hot person high?? Well at least they wake up and they're still hot and not butt ass ugly. You don't ralph up your weed, you don't have weed hangovers, and I would rather be on the road with a bunch of stoners than drunks. All you do when you're stoned is drive 8mph instead of 30, and you frantically look for the nearest VP because your yearning for some Kristy Kreams is something fierce. I have smoked my fair share of weed and drank my fair share of alcohol, I'm 22 and I have a nice paralegal job lined up for me come this summer, I have an associates degree in paralegal, and I am working on a bachelors, majoring in English (ya I know you can't tell.. all of my paragraphs run in to one SUPERPARAGRAPH) my point isn't to make my head any bigger than it is already it's to point out that I am successful, and I have done recreational drugs. People like to blame drugs when someones life goes bad. That's a cop out. I did them and I had the maturity to stop when I had enough and to keep my priorities in line. I know I'm waaaaaaay off the subject but that's my two pennies worth. anyone who has read my other messages.. I took the "test" CVSA test to see if I could pass and I couldn't so I'm not pressing charges because I can't pass a damned lie detector test. CROCK OF SHIT but that's my opinion. It's a mans world and we women simply have to exist smile, wear our short skirts to look sexy and hopefully land us a successful husband so we can get somewhere other than paralegal.. that is unless someone wants to pay my tution to law school..?? ANYONE???
DIDN'T THINK SO!! I guess it's still low cut tight sexy shirts and short skirts and 6 inch heels for me to get anywhere in this mans world! Perhaps if I were a stripper??? I just conquered three subjects. Damn I'm good!
TOODLES
Note: this message has been edited for ease of reading; hard returns at the end of each line were removed. -- AntiPolygraph.org Administrator
This is somewhat related to what you guys were arguing about. I work in an office, where there is no physical work whatsoever. We're subject to random drug testing. Every six weeks we have a staff meeting and someone's name is drawn. There are about 20 of us that work here. I don't understand it but it's done regardless. One person has been fired because she failed it, though it didn't harm the way she was doing her job. Anyway first of all there's a fat loophole. Ok the drug tests are every six weeks. That gives everyone two free weeks to get toasted and come up clean for the drug test. I don't do anything illegal, I have a baby and I'm not about to jeapordize my childs well being for any reason, let alone an illegal recreational reason. I believe marijuana should be legalized. I am going to use the cop out everyone else uses. When you're drunk as hell you can't drive, you puke all over the place if you eat anything (burritos especially) you wake up sick, you can die from alcohol poisioning, many people have gone to bed with hot people when they're drunk just to wake up next to a freak. Now what happens when you're high? Who dies of a weed overdose? Who has gone to bed with a hot person high?? Well at least they wake up and they're still hot and not butt ass ugly. You don't ralph up your weed, you don't have weed hangovers, and I would rather be on the road with a bunch of stoners than drunks. All you do when you're stoned is drive 8mph instead of 30, and you frantically look for the nearest VP because your yearning for some Kristy Kreams is something fierce. I have smoked my fair share of weed and drank my fair share of alcohol, I'm 22 and I have a nice paralegal job lined up for me come this summer, I have an associates degree in paralegal, and I am working on a bachelors, majoring in English (ya I know you can't tell.. all of my paragraphs run in to one SUPERPARAGRAPH) my point isn't to make my head any bigger than it is already it's to point out that I am successful, and I have done recreational drugs. People like to blame drugs when someones life goes bad. That's a cop out. I did them and I had the maturity to stop when I had enough and to keep my priorities in line. I know I'm waaaaaaay off the subject but that's my two pennies worth. anyone who has read my other messages.. I took the "test" CVSA test to see if I could pass and I couldn't so I'm not pressing charges because I can't pass a damned lie detector test. CROCK OF SHIT but that's my opinion. It's a mans world and we women simply have to exist smile, wear our short skirts to look sexy and hopefully land us a successful husband so we can get somewhere other than paralegal.. that is unless someone wants to pay my tution to law school..?? ANYONE???
DIDN'T THINK SO!! I guess it's still low cut tight sexy shirts and short skirts and 6 inch heels for me to get anywhere in this mans world! Perhaps if I were a stripper??? I just conquered three subjects. Damn I'm good!
TOODLES
Note: this message has been edited for ease of reading; hard returns at the end of each line were removed. -- AntiPolygraph.org Administrator
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 14, 2002, 04:24 AMOK...
This BS is going to stop from here on out.
Some people--mainly myself--got too caught up in a rediculous "mind game." It is clear that this site is not a place for such conduct.
Moreover, I think such childish games reflect poorly on the professionalism of this site. This site serves to educate and enlighten those who have been falsely misled into believing that the polygraph is a reliable "science."
I owe more respect than I have shown to George and Gino...they have helped me indefinitely in coming closer in my attempt to enter a career in law enforcement.
I offer a sincere apology...
I am truly sorry. Sometimes my alter ego gets the better of me.
This BS is going to stop from here on out.
Some people--mainly myself--got too caught up in a rediculous "mind game." It is clear that this site is not a place for such conduct.
Moreover, I think such childish games reflect poorly on the professionalism of this site. This site serves to educate and enlighten those who have been falsely misled into believing that the polygraph is a reliable "science."
I owe more respect than I have shown to George and Gino...they have helped me indefinitely in coming closer in my attempt to enter a career in law enforcement.
I offer a sincere apology...
I am truly sorry. Sometimes my alter ego gets the better of me.
Posted by Administrator
- Apr 13, 2002, 02:50 AMNetnin,
To the extent that you have anything to contribute to the discussion of polygraphy and polygraph policy your participation is welcome here. But puerile antics contribute nothing to this discussion and are not welcome. Please cease and desist.
To the extent that you have anything to contribute to the discussion of polygraphy and polygraph policy your participation is welcome here. But puerile antics contribute nothing to this discussion and are not welcome. Please cease and desist.
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 12, 2002, 09:09 PMQuoteQuote:And No I will not respond to any replies to this post. If I did I would be childish
While your initial post does not prove you childish, it does prove you to be oblivious.
When are the people that have been following this chain of posts going to realize that I will not post any further messages if I don't receive any reactions?
It is so damn simple...the only reason I am responding again is because twoblock had to add yet anothercomment.
It appears as though BEAR, AMM, and others who have taken part in this "battle of power," as twoblock calls it, have realized that the way to win this game is to not respond at all, thus beating me at my own game by not allowing me to respond to anything further.
But of course, just when things seemed to die down, twoblock had to throw in his two cents which were not needed.
This game is similar to when a child (me) throws a temper-tantrum when he or she doesn't get his or her way. As long as the parent continues to give in and crumble under the influence of the child's behavior, the child will continue to throw a fit when he or she wants something.
A smart parent, however, will realize that the way to correct this child's behavior is by giving the child no reaction (not giving in) when he or she throws a fit.
This game--regardless of how childish it is--proves one thing:
People just can't help themselves. Plain and simple.
Quote:In case you don't realize it, my verbal manipulation comes in the form of dialogue that forces--yes, FORCES--those who read it to add their two cents. People just feel, as in your case, that they can't walk away with feeding the inferno of chaos that I create.
It is each individual's job out there to show some restraint and prove my above assertion wrong.
Any individual who responds will surely ruin it for the whole, and will show further disrespect for the founders of this site.
AND ONCE AGAIN...ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS SITE CANNOT RESIST ADDING ANOTHER RESPONSE, THUS FORCING ME TO POST AGAIN.
Posted by BEAR
- Apr 12, 2002, 09:04 PMThe very reason I use IM is because I too feel this conversation is not worthy of the board.
And for the record the only reason I was asking netnin what its gender was is because she or he is using this site as a dating service. She or he wrote me a IM asking where I lived and what I looked like. Then "it" wrote "you know I'm a male".
I obviously offended "it" by asking why it mattered what I looked like.
Since then I tried to keep that conversation off the message board to spare all of the others and that is the reason I sent IMs.
Now Netnin, I'm a male, I'm not gay, I'm not interested in knowning any more than I do (and even that is too much).
Get a job so you can have your operation to make you whatever gender you want to be.
If I were falling into your cycle then I wouldn't have used IMs I would have continued on the board. You may think you are winning some great game but the thing is, you are only playing with yourself. Like everyone else I came to this forum to learn about polygraphs, something which I achieved based on the passsing of my first test. Maybe you should do the same. Shut up and learn. Only offer information that can help others. I would also offer a word of advice, if socialization is what you need, then try some chat rooms for people with shared interest, and Paxil.
And because of your previous frabication of IMs, at this point, noone knows if you are being honest with any of your quotes no matter what you claim and furthermore they just don't care. please give us all one more post to show your ass.
And for the record the only reason I was asking netnin what its gender was is because she or he is using this site as a dating service. She or he wrote me a IM asking where I lived and what I looked like. Then "it" wrote "you know I'm a male".
I obviously offended "it" by asking why it mattered what I looked like.
Since then I tried to keep that conversation off the message board to spare all of the others and that is the reason I sent IMs.
Now Netnin, I'm a male, I'm not gay, I'm not interested in knowning any more than I do (and even that is too much).
Get a job so you can have your operation to make you whatever gender you want to be.
If I were falling into your cycle then I wouldn't have used IMs I would have continued on the board. You may think you are winning some great game but the thing is, you are only playing with yourself. Like everyone else I came to this forum to learn about polygraphs, something which I achieved based on the passsing of my first test. Maybe you should do the same. Shut up and learn. Only offer information that can help others. I would also offer a word of advice, if socialization is what you need, then try some chat rooms for people with shared interest, and Paxil.
And because of your previous frabication of IMs, at this point, noone knows if you are being honest with any of your quotes no matter what you claim and furthermore they just don't care. please give us all one more post to show your ass.
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 12, 2002, 09:00 PMQuoteAnd No I will not respond to any replies to this post. If I did I would be childish
While your initial post does not prove you childish, it does prove you to be oblivious.
When are the people that have been following this chain of posts going to realize that I will not post any further messages if I don't receive any reactions?
It is so damn simple...the only reason I am responding again is because twoblock had to add yet anothercomment.
It appears as though BEAR, AMM, and others who have taken part in this "battle of power," as twoblock calls it, have realized that the way to win this game is to not respond at all, thus beating me at my own game by not allowing me to respond to anything further.
But of course, just when things seemed to die down, twoblock had to throw in his two cents which were not needed.
This game is similar to when a child (me) throws a temper-tantrum when he or she doesn't get his or her way. As long as the parent continues to give in and crumble under the influence of the child's behavior, the child will continue to throw a fit when he or she wants something.
A smart parent, however, will realize that the way to correct this child's behavior is by giving the child no reaction (not giving in) when he or she throws a fit.
This game--regardless of how childish it is--proves one thing:
People just can't help themselves. Plain and simple.
QuoteIn case you don't realize it, my verbal manipulation comes in the form of dialogue that forces--yes, FORCES--those who read it to add their two cents. People just feel, as in your case, that they can't walk away with feeding the inferno of chaos that I create.
It is each individual's job out there to show some restraint and prove my above assertion wrong.
Any individual who responds will surely ruin it for the whole, and will show further disrespect for the founders of this site.
Posted by therock
- Apr 12, 2002, 08:22 PMWell said TwoBlock.
Posted by Twoblock (Guest)
- Apr 12, 2002, 07:33 PMBefore some wisecrack, I ment to say "crap unrelated to the polygraph"
Posted by Twoblock (Guest)
- Apr 12, 2002, 07:30 PMI won't recognize or qualify you by mentioning names but, those who are posting unrelated polygraph crap, please refrain. This is an antipolygraph site. Not a personal power site. You are showing great disrespect to George, Gino and others who are interested in the stated purpose. Fodors.com is a good site to vent your adolescent tripe.
And No I will not respond to any replies to this post. If I did I would be childish.
And No I will not respond to any replies to this post. If I did I would be childish.
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 12, 2002, 06:54 PMAnd BEAR responds yet again!
In another private message, BEAR states:
BEAR seems to be falling further and further into my vicious cycle of manipulation...kind of like an alcoholic that steadily falls further into drinking more and more quantity--only to continuously rationalize why he or she is doing so.
BEAR also stated:
Funny that she is the one who can't resist, yet laughs at others for doing the same thing...seems to me that she is in a clear state of denial.
Every word a planned move...
In another private message, BEAR states:
Quote(04/12/02 at 12:08:25) BEAR has sent you the following Instant Message:
->*<-
Ok so why are you calling me a female?
And the only reason I sent you the IM is because you were asking me where I lived and what I looked like, I see you failed to mention that.
BEAR seems to be falling further and further into my vicious cycle of manipulation...kind of like an alcoholic that steadily falls further into drinking more and more quantity--only to continuously rationalize why he or she is doing so.
BEAR also stated:
QuoteI too laugh when I see the people who simply can't resist and try to take a stab at you.
Funny that she is the one who can't resist, yet laughs at others for doing the same thing...seems to me that she is in a clear state of denial.
Every word a planned move...
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 12, 2002, 05:45 AMJust to let everyone know...
I was correct in my hunch that someone was altering their identity.
I just received the following private message from Bear (and no, this one isn't fabricated like the one I made up for DUC748...George or Gino can verify this for you):
And since BEAR didn't want to publicly post her response, I found it necessary to publicly display BEAR's private message because it serves to show--yet again--that I am still the king of manipulation.
She couldn't resist responding, but she was afraid to respond publicly because she knew it would demonstrate her falling further into my game.
Bad bad naughty girl! "Ohh the web we weave when we deceive." The truth has been set free.
Who is up to bat next?
I was correct in my hunch that someone was altering their identity.
I just received the following private message from Bear (and no, this one isn't fabricated like the one I made up for DUC748...George or Gino can verify this for you):
QuoteBEAR
New User
Posts: 12
(No subject) on: 04/12/02 at 00:39:42
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ok you busted me on the lay thing but only because you never answered my IM's.
you really threw me a curve ball with your IM saying you were a male, and once again you have won with baiting me into more responses.
I am assuring you that I only posted the one message.
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And since BEAR didn't want to publicly post her response, I found it necessary to publicly display BEAR's private message because it serves to show--yet again--that I am still the king of manipulation.
She couldn't resist responding, but she was afraid to respond publicly because she knew it would demonstrate her falling further into my game.
Bad bad naughty girl! "Ohh the web we weave when we deceive." The truth has been set free.
Who is up to bat next?
Posted by MissionPoly-ban
- Apr 12, 2002, 02:57 AMQuote"...I have just told you how to beat me at my own game...do you still feel obligated to respond again(?), even though doing so will just prove that I am the king of manipulation?
...I was able to do it two times now because as I said, I am the king of manipulation..."
So what is it king or queen?
You seem to have an identity crises.
Just couldn't resist Lay...could you?
QuoteIn case you don't realize it, my verbal manipulation comes in the form of dialogue that forces--yes, FORCES--those who read it to add their two cents. People just feel, as in your case, that they can't walk away with feeding the inferno of chaos that I create.
My game plays like this: I throw a controversial topic/post into play, and whenever anyone makes any type of response, I consider it a victory for me.
A response from anyone (to my initial post) is representative of the fact that I was successfully able to verbally manipulate them (and draw them in) into feeding my love for chaos.
Thanks for keeping the game alive, and letting me put another notch on the post.
PS: Something tells me that one of you out there keeps altering your identity. Some of the above posts are by the same person, but posted under different names.