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Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Apr 18, 2007, 05:32 AM
Quote from: theydeceivedme1 on Apr 18, 2007, 12:08 AMAnyways, what do you think would happen if I told them "Well the problem last time and every other time was that I don't believe that the machine recorded any physical reactions, and I think the polygraphers were all bluffing".  Could they use my admitted disbelief in the validity of the entire polygraph process against me?

Polygraphers have a hard time abiding those honest enough to admit to knowing that polygraphy is all smoke and mirrors. If you pursue your suggested course of action, there is a good chance that you will be pegged as a troublemaker and blacklisted. The nail that stands up gets hammered down.
Posted by G Scalabr
 - Apr 18, 2007, 02:06 AM
QuoteSo I have failed four polygraph exams while seeking a clearance for a federal agency.  
Sounds like NSA, in that they are the only federal agency widely known to bring someone back this many times.

QuoteMy goal is to get through the process, and I have no faith that doing what I've been doing during the last four exams is going to get me through it.  So maybe they will let me through if they know that they aren't fooling me.
If I am correct, NSA requires approval of a senior official to set up a polygraph session beyond the third. If you have already had four and they do call you back for a fifth, you must have a skill that they really want, or they would have said "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out..." already.

Keep up your plan and make no admissions.
Posted by theydeceivedme1
 - Apr 18, 2007, 12:08 AM
So I have failed four polygraph exams while seeking a clearance for a federal agency.  I would like the clearance, but I'm getting sick of the polygraph sessions.  Each time I sit down with them they usually start by asking me what the problem was in the previous session.  Then they run through like 10 charts and basically lecture me for 3 hours trying to convince me its ok to tell them what I've been hiding (which is absolutely nothing).

Anyways, what do you think would happen if I told them "Well the problem last time and every other time was that I don't believe that the machine recorded any physical reactions, and I think the polygraphers were all bluffing".  Could they use my admitted disbelief in the validity of the entire polygraph process against me?  

My goal is to get through the process, and I have no faith that doing what I've been doing during the last four exams is going to get me through it.  So maybe they will let me through if they know that they aren't fooling me.