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Posted by EosJupiter
 - Sep 29, 2006, 02:43 PM
Gino,

Check your email and messages ...


Regards ...
Posted by G Scalabr
 - Sep 29, 2006, 06:17 AM
QuoteThe more fed up I get the more I am considering writing a piece of software to download from this site, that is a countermeasure trainer (Free of Course),  as a companion to the TLBLD.

EosJupiter,

This is an excellent idea. I have long been contemplating something along these lines (perhaps Flash-based), but I just don't quite have the technical skill to get it done.

Still, something that would produce questions and then require the viewer to identify them as irrelevant/relevant/control (and click to apply some 'measure, of course) would be ideal to have on the site.

Private Message me if you want to discuss this further.

GJS
Posted by underlyingtruth
 - Sep 25, 2006, 02:52 PM
Sounds like an EXCELENT idea!  Go for it!
Posted by EosJupiter
 - Sep 25, 2006, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Dippityshurff on Sep 23, 2006, 02:34 PM


I am not a polygrapher but the above statement ought to draw some interesting responses from this group.  hang on!

Good luck

Dippityshurff,

No fireworks on this one from me .... but I am getting real tired of the polygraphers expounding the company line, with no substance to back it up. The more fed up I get the more I am considering writing a piece of software to download from this site, that is a countermeasure trainer (Free of Course),  as a companion to the TLBLD. Lets give them something to really think about.  Lets take this up a notch shall we. Does anyone think this might be a good thing .. obviously our local polygraphers will not think so.

Regards ...
Posted by DippityShurff
 - Sep 23, 2006, 02:34 PM
Quote from: Lienot on Sep 23, 2006, 07:58 AMIt is open to polygraph examiners only.  And we do study Counter Measures and are aware that they can effect the tracings.  We know what to look for and can generally tell you what you did and how.  I am not afraid of your use of counter measures, and have the ability to detect most, not all.  


I am not a polygrapher but the above statement ought to draw some interesting responses from this group.  hang on!

Good luck
Posted by Lienot
 - Sep 23, 2006, 07:58 AM
It is open to polygraph examiners only.  And we do study Counter Measures and are aware that they can effect the tracings.  We know what to look for and can generally tell you what you did and how.  I am not afraid of your use of counter measures, and have the ability to detect most, not all.  
Posted by antrella
 - Sep 23, 2006, 06:56 AM
Quote from: EosJupiter on Sep 21, 2006, 03:10 AMAll Concerned,

I found this today and found it most interesting that the California Polygraph Association meeting schedule for next month in San Diego, (Coronado Island actually), has set aside almost 8 hours to training reguarding countermeasures. Seems to me for those folks that say countermeasures are a trivial thing, seems to be alot of attention and time in this area. But again I say if it all so worthless,then why the attention. Nobody pays for nonsense, even though a trip to San Diego is always quite cool.

Link: http://www.californiapolygraph.com/

Regards ...

Is this open to anyone? If so, what's to stop a non-polygrapher from checking out such an event?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Sep 22, 2006, 10:22 PM
EosJupiter,

Polygraph countermeasures has been a recurring topic at polygraph meetings across the country in recent years, especially since AntiPolygraph.org went on-line in 2000. I agree with you that evidently, at least behind closed doors, the polygraph community does not consider countermeasures to be a trivial thing.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Sep 22, 2006, 10:01 PM
Quote from: nonombre on Sep 22, 2006, 08:41 PMForgive my spelling error, but doesn't this fall into the category of an "ad hominum" attack?

alterego1's post is indeed an ad hominem attack, and as such is entirely inappropriate.
Posted by nonombre
 - Sep 22, 2006, 08:41 PM
Quote from: alterego1 on Sep 22, 2006, 03:28 PMI'm surprised to see they used military time.  I would figure such mental calculations would be beyond the abiliites of the average polygrapher.

Forgive my spelling error, but doesn't this fall into the category of an "ad hominum" attack?
Posted by alterego1
 - Sep 22, 2006, 03:28 PM
I'm surprised to see they used military time.  I would figure such mental calculations would be beyond the abiliites of the average polygrapher.
Posted by EosJupiter
 - Sep 21, 2006, 03:10 AM
All Concerned,

I found this today and found it most interesting that the California Polygraph Association meeting schedule for next month in San Diego, (Coronado Island actually), has set aside almost 8 hours to training reguarding countermeasures. Seems to me for those folks that say countermeasures are a trivial thing, seems to be alot of attention and time in this area. But again I say if it all so worthless,then why the attention. Nobody pays for nonsense, even though a trip to San Diego is always quite cool.

Link: http://www.californiapolygraph.com/

Text for the registration and schedule:

CAPE Training Conference
October 13 & 14, 2006
Loews Coronado Bay Resort
4000 Coronado Bay Road, Coronado, CA 92118
(619) 424-4000 (619) 424-4400 fax
Course Outline
Friday, October 14, 2005
0700-0745 Early Registration
0745-0800 Opening Ceremonies San Diego PD
1200-1300 Catered
0815-1200 Countermeasures Dr.Gordan H. Barland, Ph.D.
Lunch
1300-1600 Countermeasures Dr.Gordan H. Barland, Ph.D.
1600-1730 CAPE General Membership Meeting
Election of Officers and Board of Directors
Saturday, October 15, 2005
0745-0800 Registration
0800-1100 Nailing the Pre-test Milton "Skip" Webb Jr.
1200-1330 Lunch on your own
1330-1630 "The Changing Face of Polygraphy: Dr. Frank Horvath, Ph. D.
Comments on Contemporary
Developments Across the World."

ANd our old buddy Uncle Milty "Skip" Webb will be there too, isn't that just special ....

Regards ...