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Posted by bendover
 - Aug 11, 2006, 02:16 AM
Thanks cesium.....Just Ben or Mr. Dover  ;D
And to think, I was going to go with Harry Paratesteez :D ;D
Posted by cesium_133
 - Aug 11, 2006, 01:29 AM
Quote from: bendover on Aug 11, 2006, 12:18 AMOH and thanks to this site I passed my pre-emp poly   :D

Reapplying an ill-advised post of my own from a few weeks back... congrats... and -this- is what antipolygraph.org is all about, helping honest people pass who otherwise might not, for any number of reasons.  Giving honest people (whom this test, esp the CQT version, tends to be biased against) an added chance to pass a "test" that is subjective and arbitrary to the core.  Making sure someone like you, Ben, doesn't become "an acceptable loss" in the name of modern phrenology  ;)

George gets to add one more success story to his archive with this :)

Rock on, Ben.  Or is it Bend?  lol...  8)
Posted by bendover
 - Aug 11, 2006, 12:18 AM
now you know, knowledge is POWER.....you sound sort of like me (sort of) depression, ADD, Bipolar, heavy duty leg shaker, you know the kind that shakes the whole house, and I sweat like a 10ton fatman in the jungle.........get yourself a good lawyer and give him this link and the pdf book TLBTLD and expose this magic 8ball poly crap and clean this "EX's" clock  and maybe take that poly putz down with the EX :)  OH and thanks to this site I passed my pre-emp poly   :D
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Aug 09, 2006, 04:46 AM
It's a common practice for polygraphers to ask a subject how she thinks she did. If the subject expresses the opinion that she did poorly, this is taken as a sign of deception. It's entirely possible that you "passed," but that the polygrapher interrogated you anyway to see if he could get a confession, perhaps in part because of your answer to the question about how you thought you did.

In any event, it doesn't really matter whether you passed, failed, or if the charts were scored as inconconclusive, and you don't need to look to your medical condition to explain any mistaken results. Polygraph "testing" is junk science, and you should not feel obligated to explain why an invalid test may have produced an erroneous result.

As used by law enforcement agencies, the polygraph often serves as a pretext for getting a suspect into an interrogation room without a lawyer present. While polygraph results may be inadmissible, confessions obtained through interrogation during the "test" generally are admissible.

As you now know, it was a mistake to agree to the polygraph in the first place. I think you would now be well advised not to allow yourself to be questioned again without a lawyer present.

For more information about polygraphy, see our e-book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, which you can download here:

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf
Posted by jilybean
 - Aug 09, 2006, 03:55 AM
Due to some illegal behavior on the part of my ex, of which he is blaming me, I took a polygraph last week.  I know now I should have said no as a suspect, but I had never really thought about a poly before, knew nothing, etc.  Anyway, they never really told me what my results were...though there were several "signs" I suppose.

First off, I have severe obsessive compulsive disorder and take a rather high dose of zoloft.  This controls the OCD, but tends to increase general anxiety.

Second, Right after the test, still hooked up to the machine though he said the test was over, he asked me how I thought I did and I said not well.  You may laugh here, but that chair was so dirty!  I am compulsively clean and all I could think about was that dirty chair...you know when a finish gets old and turns gunky and you can actually scrape it off?  That was it...I actually scraped a bunch off between rounds of questions...Ugh!

Third...he kept telling me to stop moving my feet, and sounded quite irritated about it.  Honestly, it is a nervous habit of mine, I do it nearly constantly and don't usually even notice unless someone points it out.  Do I sound crazy yet  ;D

So afterwards, he leaves the room for a few minutes, maybe 3-4.  Comes back in and says i was right, didn't do so well, and continues to very harshly interrogate me to get me to confess.  I didn't, as I had been telling the truth.  He really got demanding, actually said that things would be so much easier on me down the road if I told the truth now, otherwise he would have to get on the stand at trial and every judge knows who he is and would know why he was there and how would that look?  Anyway, pathetically, I actually started to cry.  I was just soooo tired of accusations when he is such a jerk, I have in emails that he was going to frame me as well as physical threats, etc.  So I started crying and said I would not admit to something I hadn't done just to make him happy.  So he left the room.

Came back about five minutes later and very gruffly said "Come with me." and took me back to the original interrogation room where the detective met me and gave me my email file back, I had given him permission to copy.  Anyway, he said "All this means is I have more work to do."  I am still crying and don't ask questions.

Anyway, now that I have calmed down, I realize they never actually said I failed, passed, inconclusive, anything.  Everything to this point looked horrible.  However, the post interview lasted less than ten minutes.  It wasn't long or drawn out at all.  Second, got a phone call from my ex (accuser) today, more threats as usual about how evil I am, rot in you know where, etc. Said he talked to the cops and knows I denied everything and will pay for my lies (saved the message and am filing for restraining order.  I have had enough) and he said NOTHING about the poly.  Knowing it is in my file, had I failed, I am sure they would have let him know as the alleged victim, and he most certainly would have mentioned a failed poly in the phone call to me, he wouldn't be able to resist rubbing that in.

So now my theory...remember the OCD?  I have theories for everything...is that I actually passed, but due to the fidgity behavior and anti-anxiety medications that I told them I took daily, they were assuming it was not an accurate pass and were trying to get me to crack.
Anyway, again, must verify my theories everywhere :)
If anyone has any input on what occurred, I would really appreciate another analysis.  

I know enough now, that if they ask me to retest, the answer will be absolutely not!!
Thanks everyone!