- Welcome to AntiPolygraph.org Message Board.
A forum for free and open discussion of polygraph-related topics
Posted by angerfied
- Aug 07, 2006, 11:57 PMAll,
Thanks for your support, I will certainly write to my elected officials about what happened, but I have to admit I don't expect much. Also given that I work near a college campus I may be able to find time to put up a few posters. The idea behind my idea for a book was again to get stories out to the public, and given my background a book would be a format I know something about. I've heard many stories about books, even those that were self published making an issue known. If the book gets to the right people, before you know it the story is in newspapers. After that you hope the book or reviews of the book draw attention from other newspapers or media outlets. I thought this would be a good idea because, while I know a lot of people that read the literature section of papers, both local and national, I know very few people who would search for an anti-polygraph website without some reason.
Thanks for your support, I will certainly write to my elected officials about what happened, but I have to admit I don't expect much. Also given that I work near a college campus I may be able to find time to put up a few posters. The idea behind my idea for a book was again to get stories out to the public, and given my background a book would be a format I know something about. I've heard many stories about books, even those that were self published making an issue known. If the book gets to the right people, before you know it the story is in newspapers. After that you hope the book or reviews of the book draw attention from other newspapers or media outlets. I thought this would be a good idea because, while I know a lot of people that read the literature section of papers, both local and national, I know very few people who would search for an anti-polygraph website without some reason.
Posted by fatman1955
- Aug 06, 2006, 12:49 AMGeorge, your points were well articulated and thanks for your insights on the subject. I see that you live in the Netherlands. That is a beautiful country and the people are fantastic. I use to live in Mons (Bergen), Belgium.
Posted by meangino
- Aug 05, 2006, 07:47 PMI have sent letters to my representatives in the Congress advocating the protections of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act be extended to all Americans. Regretabbly, only one showed the courtesy of a response and it was a form letter that was non-responsive to the issues I raised.
Nonetheless, if enough constituents write their representatives they will eventually listen. Granted, for the reasons Mr. Maschke has cited in this message thread the "legislative route" will take time.
Mr. Maschke, I recommend you post a sample letter on this site that can be used as a template for those desiring to write their representatives. With your superb writing ability anything you draft would have instant credibility.
Nonetheless, if enough constituents write their representatives they will eventually listen. Granted, for the reasons Mr. Maschke has cited in this message thread the "legislative route" will take time.
Mr. Maschke, I recommend you post a sample letter on this site that can be used as a template for those desiring to write their representatives. With your superb writing ability anything you draft would have instant credibility.
Posted by alterego1
- Aug 05, 2006, 06:10 PMGeorge!! I just noticed your new avatar, and your hair!!! It's all gone!!! What kind of bet did you lose? 
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Aug 05, 2006, 03:45 PMQuote from: fatman1955 on Aug 05, 2006, 02:28 PMGeorge, first of all I have the utmost respect for your views and applauded your personal campaign to abolish the polygraph.
Thank you for your kind words. I have indeed put a great deal of time and effort into promoting polygraph reform, but I'm hardly alone in this, and there are many to whom great credit is due.
QuoteThe only problem with your theory is the general public really does not care. Unless you have been a victim and know what goes on during the polygraph test, I would speculate that the general public just does not care.
Agreed, but I don't perceive this as a "problem with my theory." I agree with you that the general public really doesn't care. But they generally don't care not only because they are not personally affected, but also because they are ill-informed (if not misinformed) about polygraphy. I think it is probably the case that most Americans are still under the false impression that polygraphy, while admittedly fallible, is somehow a valid, science-based technique for differentiating truth from deception, when in actuality, it's sheer pseudoscience.
QuotePrior to my test I trusted the agency that administered my test. This organization has a very good reputation (most of the time). I am sure that all of us, to include yourself, had no idea we would be falsely accused of lying without being shown any evidence to prove it.
Roger that. But I think this only buttresses my argument that the most important area where we need to be working now is spreading public understanding of the fraud that is polygraphy.
QuoteIf you want to stop unfair treatment of individuals legislation must come through amendment of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act (29 USC 22) and have Congress extend the protections of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act to all Americans. To do this your vehicle of change is through our elected officials. Changing Federal policy is not a very quick process. If everyone sent an individual letter to there Congressman/woman or State representative with sound proof of how unfair the polygraph is used to hire and maintain Federal employees maybe, just maybe, progress will be made to have all Americans treated equally.
Agreed! And I fully encourage all who have been victims of the polygraph to contact their elected representatives at both the federal and state levels. Unfortunately, however, experience shows that our elected representatives care less about what's right or wrong than they do about what's necessary to get elected/re-elected. Polygraph policy unfortunately ranks all too low on the priority list of most members of Congress and state legislatures.
So long as the public remains largely misinformed about polygraphy, publicly taking a stand against polygraph screening is going to hurt most candidates rather than help them, because they'll be credibly (albeit demagogically) attacked as somehow being "weak on security."
QuoteThe problem as I see it, the government will side with what is best to protect the country. The old saying you may need to break a few eggs to make a good omelet may hold true. Unfortunately we, the victims of the polygraph are some of the few eggs!
I disagree. The government won't side with what is best to protect the country. The government will side with what is best to protect its own bureaucratic interests, which are all-too-frequently at odds with the interests of the American people.
Governmental reliance on the pseudoscience of polygraphy doesn't protect the interests of the American people. Rather it protects the interests of corrupt and incompetent government officials shirking accountability to the people they are supposed to serve.
QuoteMy strategy has become stop feeling mad about what happened to me, because there are more stories worst than mine, and write every elected official I can find who has shown an interest in stopping the polygraph. I am currently writing a letter containing verified and credible proof identified in academic circles that shows the polygraph is unjust and presents a threat to Federal agencies preventing competent people from serving their country base on technology from the 1920s to every elected official I can find. I am confident there are at lease a few public officials who will understand and pursue this issue. There are a few listed on antipolygraph.org but I am not sure it this list is inclusive of current. It may mean using the media such as FOX News or CNN to get their attention. Unfortunately, the change may not help the ones, who have failed the polygraph unjustly, but those in the future may not have to endure what we had to go through.
I fully support your actions. Such efforts are indeed needed. But so long as the public continues to wrongly believe that the polygraph can detect lies, I fear that such efforts will bear little fruit. The elites of our society have known for decades that polygraphy is flapdoodle, but they continue to sanction it because a gullible and misinformed public continues to believe in this hocus pocus.
QuoteKudos to antipolygraph.org for the wealth of information. The general public awareness maybe the vehicle for change, but the driver is our elected officials. Always remember those elected, can be unelected. Get out and vote in the next election and make sure those running know this is a topic of national security and an unjust hiring practice for Federal employees.
Amen. I agree that legislative action is necessary, and perhaps you've seen AntiPolygraph.org's proposed Comprehensive Employee Polygraph Protection Act that would extend to all Americans the protections afforded to most by the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act.
QuoteHas your petition been sent to the President yet because I did sign it?
The petition has not yet been sent, but it will be well before President Bush leaves office.
Posted by fatman1955
- Aug 05, 2006, 02:28 PMGeorge, first of all I have the utmost respect for your views and applauded your personal campaign to abolish the polygraph. The only problem with your theory is the general public really does not care. Unless you have been a victim and know what goes on during the polygraph test, I would speculate that the general public just does not care. Prior to my test I trusted the agency that administered my test. This organization has a very good reputation (most of the time). I am sure that all of us, to include yourself, had no idea we would be falsely accused of lying without being shown any evidence to prove it. If you want to stop unfair treatment of individuals legislation must come through amendment of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act (29 USC 22) and have Congress extend the protections of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act to all Americans. To do this your vehicle of change is through our elected officials. Changing Federal policy is not a very quick process. If everyone sent an individual letter to there Congressman/woman or State representative with sound proof of how unfair the polygraph is used to hire and maintain Federal employees maybe, just maybe, progress will be made to have all Americans treated equally. The problem as I see it, the government will side with what is best to protect the country. The old saying you may need to break a few eggs to make a good omelet may hold true. Unfortunately we, the victims of the polygraph are some of the few eggs! My strategy has become stop feeling mad about what happened to me, because there are more stories worst than mine, and write every elected official I can find who has shown an interest in stopping the polygraph. I am currently writing a letter containing verified and credible proof identified in academic circles that shows the polygraph is unjust and presents a threat to Federal agencies preventing competent people from serving their country base on technology from the 1920s to every elected official I can find. I am confident there are at lease a few public officials who will understand and pursue this issue. There are a few listed on antipolygraph.org but I am not sure it this list is inclusive of current. It may mean using the media such as FOX News or CNN to get their attention. Unfortunately, the change may not help the ones, who have failed the polygraph unjustly, but those in the future may not have to endure what we had to go through. Kudos to antipolygraph.org for the wealth of information. The general public awareness maybe the vehicle for change, but the driver is our elected officials. Always remember those elected, can be unelected. Get out and vote in the next election and make sure those running know this is a topic of national security and an unjust hiring practice for Federal employees. Has your petition been sent to the President yet because I did sign it?
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Aug 05, 2006, 05:44 AMangerfied,
I'm also glad that you found this website, and I share your anger. The U.S. Government's polygraph policies are not only immoral and ill befit a nation that is supposed to be grounded on principles of justice, they actually undermine national security. And what happened to you (and me) continues to happen to others on a regular basis. I hope you'll join us in working to abolish polygraphy.
Your idea of collecting and publishing the stories of polygraph victims is a good one. As it turns out, we've been doing precisely that on-line here on AntiPolygraph.org since the inception of this website in 2000. Please see our Personal Statements page:
http://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml
If you (or anyone else reading this) would be willing to write a statement for inclusion on the Personal Statements page, please send e-mail to info@antipolygraph.org.
fatman1955,
I agree with you that legislative action will be needed to put an end to polygraphy. But so long as the public believes the lie that the lie detector can detect lies, coming out against polygraphy will be politically risky. So at this point, while it is important that those of us who have been victims of the polygraph inform our elected representatives, it is also important that we work to inform the public at large. Polygraphy depends on widespread public ignorance. Once people become aware of "the little man behind the curtain," so to speak, the polygraph loses its aura of awe and instead becomes a laughingstock.
We've been working hard to get the truth about polygraphs out to the people. In particular, we're trying to inform those who are most likely to be subject to polygraph screening, and in this respect, I think we have had considerable success. But much more needs to be done.
You can help by sharing what you've learned here with friends, relatives, or acquaintances who might some day face a polygraph "test." The Lie Behind the Lie Detector is small enough (1 mb) to be sent as an e-mail attachment.
If you participate in any other message boards or mailing lists, please consider raising the topic of the polygraph. And you don't have to be a college student to participate in AntiPolygraph.org's Campus Poster Initiative, which is a cost-effective way of bringing the polygraph issue to the attention of America's future national security employees (and decisionmakers):
http://antipolygraph.org/posters.shtml
Here are pictures of some posters I placed at UCLA earlier this year when I returned to file my doctoral dissertation. The cost of materials was negligible, the time involved less than an hour, and the posters were seen by thousands, bringing to the attention of some an issue that they might not otherwise have thought to look into:
I'm also glad that you found this website, and I share your anger. The U.S. Government's polygraph policies are not only immoral and ill befit a nation that is supposed to be grounded on principles of justice, they actually undermine national security. And what happened to you (and me) continues to happen to others on a regular basis. I hope you'll join us in working to abolish polygraphy.
Your idea of collecting and publishing the stories of polygraph victims is a good one. As it turns out, we've been doing precisely that on-line here on AntiPolygraph.org since the inception of this website in 2000. Please see our Personal Statements page:
http://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml
If you (or anyone else reading this) would be willing to write a statement for inclusion on the Personal Statements page, please send e-mail to info@antipolygraph.org.
fatman1955,
I agree with you that legislative action will be needed to put an end to polygraphy. But so long as the public believes the lie that the lie detector can detect lies, coming out against polygraphy will be politically risky. So at this point, while it is important that those of us who have been victims of the polygraph inform our elected representatives, it is also important that we work to inform the public at large. Polygraphy depends on widespread public ignorance. Once people become aware of "the little man behind the curtain," so to speak, the polygraph loses its aura of awe and instead becomes a laughingstock.
We've been working hard to get the truth about polygraphs out to the people. In particular, we're trying to inform those who are most likely to be subject to polygraph screening, and in this respect, I think we have had considerable success. But much more needs to be done.
You can help by sharing what you've learned here with friends, relatives, or acquaintances who might some day face a polygraph "test." The Lie Behind the Lie Detector is small enough (1 mb) to be sent as an e-mail attachment.
If you participate in any other message boards or mailing lists, please consider raising the topic of the polygraph. And you don't have to be a college student to participate in AntiPolygraph.org's Campus Poster Initiative, which is a cost-effective way of bringing the polygraph issue to the attention of America's future national security employees (and decisionmakers):
http://antipolygraph.org/posters.shtml
Here are pictures of some posters I placed at UCLA earlier this year when I returned to file my doctoral dissertation. The cost of materials was negligible, the time involved less than an hour, and the posters were seen by thousands, bringing to the attention of some an issue that they might not otherwise have thought to look into:
Posted by fatman1955
- Aug 04, 2006, 11:18 PMThe reality is, the polygraph sucks! 95% of the members have similar stories about the injustice that was bestowed on them. The other 5% (polygraphist) either get a good laugh at our misery or just don't care. The only consultation is that since the polygraph is routinely given in the Federal agencies they work for, it is my hope they are on the receiving end, and fail when they tell the truth. There are very few security related jobs who want a polygraphist that lies!
Another reality is the expectation of convincing the general public awareness of the pseudo science of polygraph by writing a book on it or starting another internet webpage listing volumes of our stories about examinee's plight. Antipolygraph.org does a good job for that and is good therapy for venting our stress and provides sound education on polygraph testing and processed. Unfortunately, most of the time it is too late. The information is so credible, agencies make you sigh a waiver stating you did not do any research on countermeasures prior to the test. That is sound confidence in this methodology to determine truth.
The only way to stop the use of the polygraph is through governmental legislation. It is evident that no one with ever take Dr. Drew C. Richardson challenge, because they know what will happen. The polygraph will be found unreliable. This is nothing new since the Academy of Science has already determined that. Writing letters of protest to these Federal agencies that administer the polygraph is fairly useless. They don't care, because there is100 more application to take your place. If you want to end the use of the polygraph for good it has to be done at the executive level. The next time you vote you make sure the political candidate has striking down the polygraph part of their campaign. The same applies for those already elected. If they want to be elected again, they make sure ending the polygraph party of their campaign. Honest people who fail the polygraph are no longer victims, they become activist. There are 3118 members on this site alone. That is a force if every one of them contact there Congressman/woman or State Representative and voice a concern because accusing American without due process to defend themselves is unconstitutional. It is only reasonable expectation that when you fail a polygraph you are given evidence or proof versus one individual's opinion of reading on a machine. This is truly un-American. I sympathize with you like the other members on this site. Deep down I am sure there are some polygraphist out there who wonder about the validity of the polygraph. The time for feeling sorry is over. Goes out and be proactive by contacting your elected officials. All the parties (Republicans, Democrats & Independents) are gearing up now for the next Presidential election.
Another reality is the expectation of convincing the general public awareness of the pseudo science of polygraph by writing a book on it or starting another internet webpage listing volumes of our stories about examinee's plight. Antipolygraph.org does a good job for that and is good therapy for venting our stress and provides sound education on polygraph testing and processed. Unfortunately, most of the time it is too late. The information is so credible, agencies make you sigh a waiver stating you did not do any research on countermeasures prior to the test. That is sound confidence in this methodology to determine truth.
The only way to stop the use of the polygraph is through governmental legislation. It is evident that no one with ever take Dr. Drew C. Richardson challenge, because they know what will happen. The polygraph will be found unreliable. This is nothing new since the Academy of Science has already determined that. Writing letters of protest to these Federal agencies that administer the polygraph is fairly useless. They don't care, because there is100 more application to take your place. If you want to end the use of the polygraph for good it has to be done at the executive level. The next time you vote you make sure the political candidate has striking down the polygraph part of their campaign. The same applies for those already elected. If they want to be elected again, they make sure ending the polygraph party of their campaign. Honest people who fail the polygraph are no longer victims, they become activist. There are 3118 members on this site alone. That is a force if every one of them contact there Congressman/woman or State Representative and voice a concern because accusing American without due process to defend themselves is unconstitutional. It is only reasonable expectation that when you fail a polygraph you are given evidence or proof versus one individual's opinion of reading on a machine. This is truly un-American. I sympathize with you like the other members on this site. Deep down I am sure there are some polygraphist out there who wonder about the validity of the polygraph. The time for feeling sorry is over. Goes out and be proactive by contacting your elected officials. All the parties (Republicans, Democrats & Independents) are gearing up now for the next Presidential election.
Posted by angerfied
- Aug 04, 2006, 07:17 PMI'm more than willing to except by having an opinion that others will disagree with me, but the blind reliance on a machine is ridiculous The fact that it seems to be the primary tool for granting or rejecting positions that could shape the future of our world is so far a field from what I would consider smart and just it shocks me. The whole process makes me think more of some writer's view of a dystopian future society than the world I live in, yet it is the world we live. Finding this site was great, but I heard a simlar story to my own only a few hours after the destruction of my desired future. It was this that first got me think of the need to tell our stories. The story I was told by another applicant as we waited for a shuttle bus was so similar to my own, that I knew things weren't right with pre-employment polygraphs. In fact his story mirrored mine so exactly it was almost comical. Like me the examiner kept imploring him to "come clean", and told him stories about people who admitted wrong doing and were at work. In fact if these two examiners are to be believed the intelligence community must be replete with former drug users now it work after they "fessed up." Now the skeptic in me might have said that maybe he was a lair, I knew I wasn't, but then I would be calling one of the most impressive people I ever met a lair. This fellow, just a few years older than me had desired to serve his country for some time. While I was in college he had been in Iraq after graduation from college as a ROTC member. While he had enjoyed serving his country, the military was really to pay for school. So he had left after his time was up. Not wanting to give up on service he choose to try and serve another way. According to the polygraph he took, he like me is a lair. I know I'm not and I don't believe he was either. I'm pretty confident that my creditability would win out if I was to debate one of these polygraph enthusiasts, but I have no doubt this fellow's would have. While their might be some legitimate failures. After a little research I'm more and more convinced many people are having life-long goals shattered by federal employees that think they reside on Mount Olympus and can crush all the mortals that enter their sphere. That's why I want to tell these stories and not be "acceptable collateral damage" any more.
Posted by EosJupiter
- Aug 04, 2006, 03:43 PMAngerfied,
First off realize that Retcopper is a polygrapher. And he scurriosly adds these little gems to support his cause and beliefs. As far as the pills are concerned, it is trivial.
But as far as your experience, its the typical scenario we see day in day out. The agencies get thousands of applicants a year, and in my humble opinion, use the polygraph as a filter to eliminate the unwanted. You did nothing wrong with the exception of being unprepared for the ordeal. The agencies are now telling all applicants not to research polygraphy. This is because the agencies know they can and have been beaten on numerous occasions. Read this websites free book, "The Lie behind the Lie Detector", and make yourself knowlegeable about this snake-oil process of BS and deception. And spread the word about where to come and become armed against this garbage process and machine. Most of us here feel your pain, I, to this day still have this anger that never goes away, because of a damn polygrapher. Much success to you.
Regards ...
First off realize that Retcopper is a polygrapher. And he scurriosly adds these little gems to support his cause and beliefs. As far as the pills are concerned, it is trivial.
But as far as your experience, its the typical scenario we see day in day out. The agencies get thousands of applicants a year, and in my humble opinion, use the polygraph as a filter to eliminate the unwanted. You did nothing wrong with the exception of being unprepared for the ordeal. The agencies are now telling all applicants not to research polygraphy. This is because the agencies know they can and have been beaten on numerous occasions. Read this websites free book, "The Lie behind the Lie Detector", and make yourself knowlegeable about this snake-oil process of BS and deception. And spread the word about where to come and become armed against this garbage process and machine. Most of us here feel your pain, I, to this day still have this anger that never goes away, because of a damn polygrapher. Much success to you.
Regards ...
Posted by retcopper
- Aug 04, 2006, 11:23 AMangerfied:
I just have one question. Why didn't you tell him up front about "the pills" you borrowed? You try to trivialize this but if you discussed it with him earlier things might have turned out differently. Is there something else that maybe you forgot to tell him? If you thought of somethng after you should have brought it to his attention.
I just have one question. Why didn't you tell him up front about "the pills" you borrowed? You try to trivialize this but if you discussed it with him earlier things might have turned out differently. Is there something else that maybe you forgot to tell him? If you thought of somethng after you should have brought it to his attention.
Posted by angerfied
- Aug 04, 2006, 01:11 AMLet me start by saying I am thrilled to have found this site, I just wish it happened sooner. None the less I feel I need to tell my story and see what you all think. A little while back, it doesn't matter exactly how long, as the events stay with me as fresh as ever, I went to take a polygraph after receiving a conditional job offer from one of the three letter members of the U.S. Intelligence Community. It all started in a waiting room, after watching a video about how great the poly was and how well-trained the examiners where ("equivalent of a master's degree"). I was a little nervous of course, but not to much so. After all I had nothing to fear. I was not only an honest person, but a rather boring one. I had just graduated from a top fifteen academic institution and had while I had liked to have fun while at parties and the like I had never touched drugs, other than alcohol. I kept my nose clean because as long as I could remember I had wanted to serve my country. When I got the opportunity to interview and then be flown to D.C. for this job I couldn't believe my luck; all my efforts had paid off. After a little wait the polygraph examiner assigned to me finally showed up. He seemed like a decent sort, and assured me that all I had to do was tell the truth. I didn't think this would be a problem and was more than happy to get started. First he asked me a few questions trying to see if I had omitted anything on my application forms. I assured him I had not and we began the examination. I answered all the questions, I didn't enjoy the fact that the blood pressure cuff was cutting off my circulation, but I still thought things were going well. After completing all the questions he left to evaluate my charts. I sat alone in the small white room, that really needed some new paint on walls and awaited the return of the man that would tell me I was ready to start my new career. When he finally showed back up he started at me right away, "Your having trouble with the drug question!" He nearly shouted as he entered the room. I was stunned, I had not every done drugs and really had never seen them outside of television. "What are you hiding." He asked in a way that left little doubt I was hiding something. I told him nothing, but that wasn't good enough. After a little while I was doubting everything I had ever done in my life, eventully I confessed that I had once borrowed some pain killers from a roommate. I've run at least 4 miles pretty much everyday since I was a sophomore in high school. I would do this so I would be strong in the late innings on the baseball games I pitched. Not wanting to take a day off I once had taken the bills after jamming my knee badly so I could run the next day. I thought this story would make him happy, but instead it just seemed to upset me. He wasn't in great shape and seemed to take offense to my serious conditioning. I wasn't trying to be all impressive and such, I just wanted to make him stop treating me as a criminal. Let me tell you it didn't help. Instead making things better as we ran the test again things were now worse. The examiner was convinced I had used drugs. He want on to tell me how it was okay, that all I had to do was tell him what drugs I had used and he would "help" me. He didn't help me and he didn't mean to either I don't think. I'm sure by this time he had decided that as soon as we were done I was going to run outside and smoke a joint. I had never been so angry in my life, this man was humiliating me, accusing me of false hoods and almost convincing me they were true. I finally lost it, I told him what I thought and that I was not lying and that his machine must be off. He then told me he believed in his machine, "120 percent." I just laughed. Eventually he told me that he'd send my charts to headquarters and walked me out. Before he left he told me that I would be invited back for a second test the next day. In one of the stupider moves of my life I want back. What I experienced was a rerun, I hate reruns. What I should have known as soon as the second examiner told me he spoke with the first, was that he wasn't going to change his buddies results. The second poly was as bad as the first.
The experience of the taking these polygraphs were the worst of my life. Even I think about it and it hurts. I had wanted to serve this nation and its people my whole life and now I can't, because of a machine. Instead of getting the job I wanted I'm currently doing an internship in business planning, its interesting but not what I want to do. I might go back to grad school, but it all seems like a second choice. I would love to say that I'm comfortable with the fact I told the truth and just say that the Intelligence Community lost a good person and laugh at them, I can't. I am as angry today as I was after the poly, but now I want to do something about it. I am planning to write my local elected officials, but I want to do more. The e-book on the front of this site gave me an idea. I am currently working on a book about my baseball experiences in an effort to help future players, parents, and coaches deal with the issues of playing sports at the high school level. While working on this book I've learned about self-publishing. I would love to put together a book of stories of people like me who have been accused of lying by the FBI, CIA, DEA, NSA, et al. My plan would be to put a group of essays in a book telling our stories, let people know what has happened. Truly make the lie perpetrated by the Government known to all. I would be more than happen to pay to self-publish this book and edit the works people submit. Maybe I'm still just really angry, but if I had known the truth about the polygraph before I took the test I wouldn't feel like such a failure. If you think this is a good idea, want to send more your story or just talk about finding ways to expose the truth please PM me and let me know. Thank you, and thank you to those that put this site together and let me know I'm not alone.
The experience of the taking these polygraphs were the worst of my life. Even I think about it and it hurts. I had wanted to serve this nation and its people my whole life and now I can't, because of a machine. Instead of getting the job I wanted I'm currently doing an internship in business planning, its interesting but not what I want to do. I might go back to grad school, but it all seems like a second choice. I would love to say that I'm comfortable with the fact I told the truth and just say that the Intelligence Community lost a good person and laugh at them, I can't. I am as angry today as I was after the poly, but now I want to do something about it. I am planning to write my local elected officials, but I want to do more. The e-book on the front of this site gave me an idea. I am currently working on a book about my baseball experiences in an effort to help future players, parents, and coaches deal with the issues of playing sports at the high school level. While working on this book I've learned about self-publishing. I would love to put together a book of stories of people like me who have been accused of lying by the FBI, CIA, DEA, NSA, et al. My plan would be to put a group of essays in a book telling our stories, let people know what has happened. Truly make the lie perpetrated by the Government known to all. I would be more than happen to pay to self-publish this book and edit the works people submit. Maybe I'm still just really angry, but if I had known the truth about the polygraph before I took the test I wouldn't feel like such a failure. If you think this is a good idea, want to send more your story or just talk about finding ways to expose the truth please PM me and let me know. Thank you, and thank you to those that put this site together and let me know I'm not alone.