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Posted by NSAreject
- Sep 30, 2004, 11:51 PMQuote from: letsbehonest on Sep 30, 2004, 05:54 PMBLAZER3,
Note that Ray, who so righteously rails against fraud, is himself a polygrapher. His whole profession is a fraud. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Be sure to read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector before your polygraph.
Full-scope polys can only be NSA or CIA. Having dealt
with NSA for many years, he certainly does sound like a
polygrapher. It is really sickening how they lie; it is akin
to being lied to by anyone in a position of trust, or
authority. But one has to remember, that a lot of the
NSA folks come from disfunctional backgrounds and have
boundary problems (no wonder, they function well in an
agency that "reads other peoples' mail"). I knew some
people at the agency, who simply quit, sick of the whole
environment. I still have a "bad taste in my mouth" from
them; it is like having one's parents trust broken.
Posted by letsbehonest
- Sep 30, 2004, 05:54 PMBLAZER3,
Did you use a different social security number, too? If not, I'm not sure how changing your middle initial alone would have helped you to get a credit card for which you might not otherwise have been eligible.
Even though you may not have intended to defraud the credit card company (in the sense of not paying the bills), to alter one's name in an attempt to hide one's credit history is indeed fraudulent, as Ray mentioned.
But you would be a fool to mention this to your polygrapher or to anyone else in the U.S. government. With your past bankruptcy, you will have a hard enough time as it is getting a security clearance. Admitting on top of that that you changed your middle initial to get a credit card will likely be the kiss of death. If you want to confess your sins, go find a priest.
Note that Ray, who so righteously rails against fraud, is himself a polygrapher. His whole profession is a fraud. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Be sure to read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector before your polygraph.
Did you use a different social security number, too? If not, I'm not sure how changing your middle initial alone would have helped you to get a credit card for which you might not otherwise have been eligible.
Even though you may not have intended to defraud the credit card company (in the sense of not paying the bills), to alter one's name in an attempt to hide one's credit history is indeed fraudulent, as Ray mentioned.
But you would be a fool to mention this to your polygrapher or to anyone else in the U.S. government. With your past bankruptcy, you will have a hard enough time as it is getting a security clearance. Admitting on top of that that you changed your middle initial to get a credit card will likely be the kiss of death. If you want to confess your sins, go find a priest.
Note that Ray, who so righteously rails against fraud, is himself a polygrapher. His whole profession is a fraud. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Be sure to read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector before your polygraph.
Posted by Ray
- Sep 29, 2004, 10:47 PMFraud was not your intent? You knowingly falsified information to obtain credit....that is fraud. Rationalize all you want it's still fraud.
I'd disclose all of this information prior to your polygraph. It may not disqualify you.
Good Luck.
I'd disclose all of this information prior to your polygraph. It may not disqualify you.
Good Luck.
Posted by BLAZER3
- Sep 29, 2004, 09:01 PMI used a different middle initial a few years ago to get a credit card, I did pay the bills and eventually filed bankruptcy because of financial probs. But I was paying the bills from my checking account and fraud was not my intent. Should I tell this up front before my lifestyle poly