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Posted by Binford
- Jun 24, 2019, 06:39 PMQuote from: 65414A4F452E0 on May 06, 2004, 01:03 PMQuote from: triple x on May 05, 2004, 11:06 PMkodak,
Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.
There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.
A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA's trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.
SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.
Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.
Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .
Knowledge is power, educate yourself on how polygraph exams are administered.
Triple x
Triple x,
Have you had any experience as an investigative specialist or know folks in the position?
Is do you know of any of the negatives about the job?
Thanks
Posted by CraigBroward462
- Mar 28, 2019, 10:20 AMSorry to revive an old thread but I am seeking current info on FBI SSG. If anyone is willing to talk please let me know.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Aug 30, 2013, 03:46 PMQuote from: Fair_Chance on Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 PMI waited for a new SSL before posting. George, you might want to do it more often than every year.
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Posted by George W. Maschke
- Aug 29, 2013, 11:46 PMQuote from: Fair_Chance on Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 PMSay the truth and lose your job.Say nothing and this country will lose our Constitution. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the landslide of our government, what is an executive branch worker to do?
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Posted by Fair Chance
- Aug 29, 2013, 09:10 PMReaders,
I have been reading from afar. I waited for a new SSL before posting. George, you might want to do it more often than every year. You have no idea how irritating you are to so many Agencies.
My first and last post for a while. Keep up the great work.
To all of the new readers, you need no more than to read all of the existing posts to know what you need to know. It is what it is. The Emperor still has no clothes but everyone who can see clearly is afraid to say the truth. Those that do will be beat down.
The general attitude in government is to surround yourself with yes-men. It helps them to cope with their disillusions. When something goes wrong, everyone asks, "Why didn't somebody say something?" They were trained to say yes, why would you ask them to say anything else?
Say the truth and lose your job. Say nothing and this country will lose our Constitution. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the landslide of our government, what is an executive branch worker to do?
I have been reading from afar. I waited for a new SSL before posting. George, you might want to do it more often than every year. You have no idea how irritating you are to so many Agencies.
My first and last post for a while. Keep up the great work.
To all of the new readers, you need no more than to read all of the existing posts to know what you need to know. It is what it is. The Emperor still has no clothes but everyone who can see clearly is afraid to say the truth. Those that do will be beat down.
The general attitude in government is to surround yourself with yes-men. It helps them to cope with their disillusions. When something goes wrong, everyone asks, "Why didn't somebody say something?" They were trained to say yes, why would you ask them to say anything else?
Say the truth and lose your job. Say nothing and this country will lose our Constitution. Caught between a rock and a hard place in the landslide of our government, what is an executive branch worker to do?
Posted by Buckyt
- Mar 25, 2013, 05:06 PMLooking for a full time position after a long time in local law enforcement. Worked JTTF for 4 years as part of my gig. Are there any age requirements for the SSG.
Posted by BJA
- Oct 21, 2011, 03:52 PM@ SSG Recruit
I was hoping you could please send me any info on becoming an investigative specialist. I am very interested in working for the FBI, but IDK if i meet the requirements for that IS job.
I was hoping you could please send me any info on becoming an investigative specialist. I am very interested in working for the FBI, but IDK if i meet the requirements for that IS job.
Posted by superman51
- Mar 09, 2009, 12:49 PMHey I am almost done the application process and awaiting my call to start class. Can you please let me know more of your likes/dislikes and give me a little more info without violating the code?
Quote from: Fair_Chance on Apr 30, 2004, 09:30 PMDear kodak,
Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years, access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.
Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI. The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period. The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.
You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.
Regards.
Posted by Fair Chance
- Jan 07, 2009, 11:27 PMDear nitehumper,
In a word, "NO_WAY!!" The only way you will get a weapon in the FBI is over the last Special Agents' dead carcass. That is what makes them special from the rest. They are armed and everyone else is not in the FBI. Take away that last vestige of power and the whole Hoover legacy takes a bloodbath. This is what is making them so upset with Mueller, he is not "one of them". The IA rise to power and prestige within the FBI is completely upsetting the apple cart of hen pecking order. There is grave concern that the worst Special Agent in the FBI is not automatically assumed better than the best "Support Employee" by default.
It is really amazing to observe the insecurity of these "top notch best of the best" people.
Good luck getting a weapon.
In a word, "NO_WAY!!" The only way you will get a weapon in the FBI is over the last Special Agents' dead carcass. That is what makes them special from the rest. They are armed and everyone else is not in the FBI. Take away that last vestige of power and the whole Hoover legacy takes a bloodbath. This is what is making them so upset with Mueller, he is not "one of them". The IA rise to power and prestige within the FBI is completely upsetting the apple cart of hen pecking order. There is grave concern that the worst Special Agent in the FBI is not automatically assumed better than the best "Support Employee" by default.
It is really amazing to observe the insecurity of these "top notch best of the best" people.
Good luck getting a weapon.
Posted by nitehumper
- Jan 07, 2009, 02:24 PMWith the evergrowing dangers a job like this brings and the possiblity of some MOB thug making you while suvaying them and pounding your face in, is it possible that someday SSG's might be armed??
Even some Mall cops are armed these days.
Even some Mall cops are armed these days.
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Nov 26, 2008, 04:38 PMQuoteI'm not sure I can pinpoint why they said what they said, but I can't impress upon you enough how important it is to be prepared for the interview (and polygraph). I was very prepared for the interview, but not at all prepared for the polygraph. Regarding my poly results, apparently I am a drug user/dealer/kingpin of some kind which is really quite amusing for anyone that knows me. Also according to the poly, I may be a spy with illicit foreign contacts. Good luck!
It never fails to amaze the number of spies, and drug dealers who apply to work at the FBI. Luckily, we have an army of vigilant polygraph operators to "catch em" before they manage to get hired! Gotta go, Oprah is on after this commercial!
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Posted by mustbaliar
- Nov 26, 2008, 10:13 AMCharlie,
I'm not sure I can pinpoint why they said what they said, but I can't impress upon you enough how important it is to be prepared for the interview (and polygraph). I was very prepared for the interview, but not at all prepared for the polygraph. Regarding my poly results, apparently I am a drug user/dealer/kingpin of some kind which is really quite amusing for anyone that knows me. Also according to the poly, I may be a spy with illicit foreign contacts. Good luck!
I'm not sure I can pinpoint why they said what they said, but I can't impress upon you enough how important it is to be prepared for the interview (and polygraph). I was very prepared for the interview, but not at all prepared for the polygraph. Regarding my poly results, apparently I am a drug user/dealer/kingpin of some kind which is really quite amusing for anyone that knows me. Also according to the poly, I may be a spy with illicit foreign contacts. Good luck!
Posted by Charlie Dibble
- Nov 21, 2008, 05:53 PMMustbaliar: Not so much a polygraph inquiry, but I'd like to know more about your responses to the interview questions that resulted in a highly qualified status. There's an FBI SSG thread over on Federal Soup I'm active with, and your info may be helpful there. Now in regards to the false-positive, may I ask what that was in regards to? TIA.
Posted by mustbaliar
- Nov 14, 2008, 11:08 AMCosmo,
I applied for similar positions with the FBI several years ago, around the time that this original thread started. The FBI is notorious for taking a very long time between notices. Be sure, however, that they will most likely not respond to your email or phone messages, based on my experience and others I have spoken with. I tried numerous times to contact my coordinator during my process but she never responded. The only way I was ever able to get through to someone was because my SO was employed with the FBI at the time and provided me with real contact info. My only advice on this is to be as patient as you can. You will hear something eventually.
Like you, I was told by one of my interviewers and a couple of coordinators that I was one of the best qualified and organized applicants and they looked forward to having me join their team. BUT, then came my false-positive polygraph result that ended any hope of ever becoming an FBI employee. My point is this: please don't get your hopes up too high. And make sure you educate yourself on the polygraph beforehand.
Good luck to you.
I applied for similar positions with the FBI several years ago, around the time that this original thread started. The FBI is notorious for taking a very long time between notices. Be sure, however, that they will most likely not respond to your email or phone messages, based on my experience and others I have spoken with. I tried numerous times to contact my coordinator during my process but she never responded. The only way I was ever able to get through to someone was because my SO was employed with the FBI at the time and provided me with real contact info. My only advice on this is to be as patient as you can. You will hear something eventually.
Like you, I was told by one of my interviewers and a couple of coordinators that I was one of the best qualified and organized applicants and they looked forward to having me join their team. BUT, then came my false-positive polygraph result that ended any hope of ever becoming an FBI employee. My point is this: please don't get your hopes up too high. And make sure you educate yourself on the polygraph beforehand.
Good luck to you.
Posted by cosmogirl136
- Nov 12, 2008, 10:53 PMi applied for fbi investigative specialist announcment 05-2007-0044 I was found best qualified I also applied for surveillance specialist 05-2007-045 and was found best qualified . I was given a coe on May 15,2008 I have not heard from the fbi regarding the BI ,drug testing or the polygraph . I am a little worried that my application is no longer active I tried calling the fbi But no one has return my phone calls or email I am a little nervous I really want this job does anybody know who I can contact to see if I am still being considered for the position?