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Posted by Ex Member
 - Mar 17, 2017, 03:21 PM
Quote from: AnonEMSGuy on Mar 17, 2017, 11:40 AMWhat is the legality of this?
Such an argument is academic. If you cross a line that the govt does not like, a way will be found to sanction you.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Mar 17, 2017, 12:23 PM
Quote from: AnonEMSGuy on Mar 17, 2017, 11:40 AMI know Doug Williams got arrested last year for coaching people how to be the polygraph, but I'm wondering if anybody still does coaching where people can get hooked up to a polygraph for practice.

I don't know anyone who presently offers this service.

QuoteWhat is the legality of this?

It is perfectly legal to teach people how to pass or beat a polygraph "test."

QuoteIs it a crime to practice trying to trick the polygraph for a hiring process?

No.

QuoteTo my knowledge they arrested Doug Williams for helping cover up criminal activity, but would his business still have been illegal if it was geared towards beating hiring process polygraphs?

Doug Williams was charged with two counts of mail fraud and three counts of witness tampering in connection with an entrapment scheme contrived by undercover federal agents. You can read more about the government's legal case against him here:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation.shtml#doug-williams

Count 5 of the indictment concerned Williams' training of an undercover agent posing as a U.S. Customs and Border Protection applicant. The undercover agent disclosed during the training that he had engaged in disqualifying criminal behavior. Under the circumstances, the government construed some of Williams' statements as "witness tampering":

QuoteIn or around February 2013, in the Western District of Oklahoma and elsewhere, defendant DOUGLAS G. WILLIAMS did knowingly and corruptly persuade and attempt to persuade Undercover B to conceal material facts and make false statements with the intent to influence, delay, and prevent the testimony of Undercover B in an official proceeding, that is, a pre-employment suitability determination and security background investigation conducted by U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

The criminal charge stems not from Williams having provided the polygraph training per se, but from his telling the undercover agent not to tell the polygrapher about the disqualifying behavior he claimed to have engaged in.
Posted by AnonEMSGuy
 - Mar 17, 2017, 11:40 AM
I know Doug Williams got arrested last year for coaching people how to be the polygraph, but I'm wondering if anybody still does coaching where people can get hooked up to a polygraph for practice.

What is the legality of this? Is it a crime to practice trying to trick the polygraph for a hiring process? To my knowledge they arrested Doug Williams for helping cover up criminal activity, but would his business still have been illegal if it was geared towards beating hiring process polygraphs?