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Posted by xenonman
- Mar 14, 2016, 04:27 PMQuote from: xenonman on Jul 15, 2015, 09:02 AMQuote from: danmangan on Jul 14, 2015, 08:36 PMBased on the information you provided, I'd say you have virtually no chance whatsoever -- unless you apply to an outfit that has great difficulty meeting its recruiting goals AND you fit a minority profile their HR department would like to showcase.
Excellent point!
Yes, being a woman might be an advantage. They are "desirable" from an AA/EEO standpoint, and generally female miscreants are generally perceived as less of a threat than their male counterparts!
Besides, it is generally acceptable societally for women to lie, in many circumstances!
Posted by xenonman
- Jul 16, 2015, 12:28 AMQuoteWell that actually makes me feel good that someone would think it is petty. I know the kid stuff is no big deal but some of it did make me really worry (and I still do!).
The DV isn't petty at all and I figured it might be an instant DQ since it was 2-4 years ago.
I'm gonna go for it anyways and hopefully I don't fail like you said.
You appear to meet the clinical definition of a sociopath. Thus you might well be able to get through the BI process. Certainly, I hope not though!
Posted by december
- Jul 15, 2015, 12:05 PMMr. Mangan --
You do realize that PolyScared (a guest) posted this question in 2011, right? So if she was successful in becoming a law enforcement officer that she has probably never looked back at this site. I'm certainly hopeful that she was not successful.
You do realize that PolyScared (a guest) posted this question in 2011, right? So if she was successful in becoming a law enforcement officer that she has probably never looked back at this site. I'm certainly hopeful that she was not successful.
Posted by Dan Mangan
- Jul 15, 2015, 10:41 AMPolyScared, in my professional opinion, if the polygraph operator finds you sexually attractive -- and you subtly telegraph that you are "into" that person -- your chances of passing the "test" will likely increase.
Why?
Generally speaking, bias is a significant factor in the polygraph process.
That said, your admissions are another matter.
Why?
Generally speaking, bias is a significant factor in the polygraph process.
That said, your admissions are another matter.
Posted by xenonman
- Jul 15, 2015, 09:24 AM"Scared",
Ever heard the work, "SOCIOPATH"? lol
Ever heard the work, "SOCIOPATH"? lol
Posted by xenonman
- Jul 15, 2015, 09:02 AMQuote from: danmangan on Jul 14, 2015, 08:36 PMBased on the information you provided, I'd say you have virtually no chance whatsoever -- unless you apply to an outfit that has great difficulty meeting its recruiting goals AND you fit a minority profile their HR department would like to showcase.
Excellent point!
Yes, being a woman might be an advantage. They are "desirable" from an AA/EEO standpoint, and generally female miscreants are generally perceived as less of a threat than theirb male counterparts!
Besides, it is generally acceptable socially for women to lie, in many circumstances!
Posted by Dan Mangan
- Jul 14, 2015, 08:36 PMBased on the information you provided, I'd say you have virtually no chance whatsoever -- unless you apply to an outfit that has great difficulty meeting its recruiting goals AND you fit a minority profile their HR department would like to showcase.
Posted by xenonman
- Jul 14, 2015, 02:55 PMWith the Feds, I'd say you have no chance. You still might have a chance with local agencies possibly.
Posted by stefano
- Jul 23, 2011, 01:36 PMQuoteThis is a prime example of WHY people fail polygraphs...its because they think such stupid stuff is actually a concern.Wait a minute. Are you saying people fail the polygraph because they have excessive concern about minor details? I thought it had to do with telling the truth or not.
Posted by PolyScared
- Jul 22, 2011, 07:59 PMWell that actually makes me feel good that someone would think it is petty. I know the kid stuff is no big deal but some of it did make me really worry (and I still do!).
The DV isn't petty at all and I figured it might be an instant DQ since it was 2-4 years ago.
I'm gonna go for it anyways and hopefully I don't fail like you said.
The DV isn't petty at all and I figured it might be an instant DQ since it was 2-4 years ago.
I'm gonna go for it anyways and hopefully I don't fail like you said.
Posted by Tyron
- Jul 22, 2011, 07:45 PMI can not help but laugh when I read your original post. Do you really think that any organization cares about the petty things that you mentioned? This is a prime example of WHY people fail polygraphs...its because they think such stupid stuff is actually a concern.
Posted by pixkbi
- Jul 20, 2011, 07:10 PMThe DV may be a problem, even with no police intervention; the hacking into someone's computer may also be a problem; the other stuff i would suspect is only a problem if you hide it and it is later discovered. each agency has minimum standards so i would give it a shot
Posted by PolyScared
- Jul 20, 2011, 12:52 PMThese are items I am taking from the background questionnaire. It was VERY long nearly 200 question in all kinds of catergories. Do they really ask this much on the polygraph?
Currently I am 29.
1. Incest - I was molested by my older brother when I was 10-12 years old. Never spoke about this and really don't want to.
2. Beastiality - When I was roughly 10-12 years old, I rubbed a male dogs genitals on one occasion. This answer scares me.
3. I was involved in a fight when I was 10-12 years old. No injuries. Kid stuff.
3. I ran away from home for 2-3 days when I was 12 years old.
4. When I had run away, I shoplifted at a super market. Approx value $3.
5. I entered and vandalized a vacant home at 12 years old. Spray painted walls. No record.
6. In the same year, I skipped school and I entered a second vacant home and a puppy we had with us soiled the carpet, vandalizing the home.
7. I stole money/goods from an employer when I was 16. $20 or $40 cash, and a $15-20 item, single occasion. This one scares me!
8. I smoked marijuana once when I was 16, no other drug activity.
9. When I was 18, I had sex in my car, in a park. A deputy told us to move along.
10. About 5 years ago, I had sex on a back porch of my apartment - nobody saw. (sex in an exposed place).
11. I called out of work when not sick (who hasn't?). I don't have a history of tardy or absences.
12. As a child and adult I have been guilty of cyber sex - nothing recent.
13. As an adult, I have been guilty of "false impersonations" online.
14. As an adult, I have "hacked" into accounts online for viewing purposes only, no intent to harm.
15. As an adult, I have provided false information (income) on credit applications.
16. About 2-4 years ago I had pushed and slapped my husband on maybe 3 occasions. This is the one that REALLY scares me.
17. I have lost my temper before. See above.
18. My neighbors probably don't like me since I have complained about barking dogs but that's it.
I have no criminal record. For the juvenile vandalism I got 30 hours community service at my junior high school but there was no court involved. It was something given by the deputy at my school.
Do I have ANY shot at some day becoming a law enforcement officer, somewhere? Right now is open enrollement for my next modular academy and I don't know what to do. I really did think I was a good person with a definite shot in this field. Now I've dismissed having any shot after filling out this background questionnarie... but maybe, somehow I might pass and go on? I have absolutely no intention of lying during the polygraph, but being so honest is making me nervous that my dream is over.
Currently I am 29.
1. Incest - I was molested by my older brother when I was 10-12 years old. Never spoke about this and really don't want to.
2. Beastiality - When I was roughly 10-12 years old, I rubbed a male dogs genitals on one occasion. This answer scares me.
3. I was involved in a fight when I was 10-12 years old. No injuries. Kid stuff.
3. I ran away from home for 2-3 days when I was 12 years old.
4. When I had run away, I shoplifted at a super market. Approx value $3.
5. I entered and vandalized a vacant home at 12 years old. Spray painted walls. No record.
6. In the same year, I skipped school and I entered a second vacant home and a puppy we had with us soiled the carpet, vandalizing the home.
7. I stole money/goods from an employer when I was 16. $20 or $40 cash, and a $15-20 item, single occasion. This one scares me!
8. I smoked marijuana once when I was 16, no other drug activity.
9. When I was 18, I had sex in my car, in a park. A deputy told us to move along.
10. About 5 years ago, I had sex on a back porch of my apartment - nobody saw. (sex in an exposed place).
11. I called out of work when not sick (who hasn't?). I don't have a history of tardy or absences.
12. As a child and adult I have been guilty of cyber sex - nothing recent.
13. As an adult, I have been guilty of "false impersonations" online.
14. As an adult, I have "hacked" into accounts online for viewing purposes only, no intent to harm.
15. As an adult, I have provided false information (income) on credit applications.
16. About 2-4 years ago I had pushed and slapped my husband on maybe 3 occasions. This is the one that REALLY scares me.
17. I have lost my temper before. See above.
18. My neighbors probably don't like me since I have complained about barking dogs but that's it.
I have no criminal record. For the juvenile vandalism I got 30 hours community service at my junior high school but there was no court involved. It was something given by the deputy at my school.
Do I have ANY shot at some day becoming a law enforcement officer, somewhere? Right now is open enrollement for my next modular academy and I don't know what to do. I really did think I was a good person with a definite shot in this field. Now I've dismissed having any shot after filling out this background questionnarie... but maybe, somehow I might pass and go on? I have absolutely no intention of lying during the polygraph, but being so honest is making me nervous that my dream is over.