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Posted by George W. Maschke
- Apr 15, 2002, 04:46 AMDrewZ,
I'm glad that the information on AntiPolygraph.org was useful to you. Please consider letting your friends, relatives, and others know about this site.
In order to end the kind of abuse that you, I, and many others have experienced, it is important that we de-mystify the voodoo science of polygraphy. Most people quickly recognize polygraphy for the fraud that it is once "the lie behind the lie detector" is explained to them.
But unfortunately, all too many people still believe in the lie detector (a belief that is often reinforced through popular culture).
I'm glad that the information on AntiPolygraph.org was useful to you. Please consider letting your friends, relatives, and others know about this site.
In order to end the kind of abuse that you, I, and many others have experienced, it is important that we de-mystify the voodoo science of polygraphy. Most people quickly recognize polygraphy for the fraud that it is once "the lie behind the lie detector" is explained to them.
But unfortunately, all too many people still believe in the lie detector (a belief that is often reinforced through popular culture).
Posted by DrewZ
- Apr 14, 2002, 09:22 PMWell my result are in and guess what, I passed with flying colors!!!! I think I just proved how accurate these machines are, I mean c'mon how do you expect these things to be accurate when I was asked the same relvant questions in two exam but got different results.
when my name is completely cleared from any wrong doing,
I might go into more detail about the hell I went through because of the first test.
A while back when I was accused of doing illegal drugs I agreed to a polygraph examination to clear my name but failed. I was nervous when I walked into his office(My integrity and career was on the line) and I got the feeling from the moment I met him he believed I was guilty. He talked about how he has seen no one in my circumstances pass the test and everybody who was accused(where I came from) is always guilty. The pre test interview just made me more nervous than ever and I know now he had to have notice this. I calmed down at the start but the anxiety came over me in the middle of the test and failed. I got a lawyer afterwards and found out I had enough evidence to prove my innocence but the damage was already done. Without the poly I strongly feel I would have been cleared of any wrong doing.
Fast forward a few years later and I have not let the injustice get me down or hold me back. Along the way I have had some help from a local lawyer who deals with these cases and found some more evidence for me free of charge. But I was getting anxious and felt there is someting I need to do. I decided to take the polygraph again. This time I looked for a private polographer as I saved up some cash. I then came across this website and read the lie behind.... I read it many times, to make sure I pass!!!!!
I walked into his office a little nervous and we talked for about an hour. HE was a nice guy and said I sounded like I was telling the truth and he was glad to help me out. I didn't fall for it however. While we talked about the case I noticed he was trying to trap me into admissions, I mentally laughed almost the whole time during our discussion. Before the test began he stated he wanted to take that hour because he noticed I was a little uncomfortable and wanted to make sure I got relaxed, unlike the examiner in the first test. I mentally laughed the hardest during the Stim Test. It was a nice magic trick but I wonder what he would have said if I asked him to shuffle those cards before asking me to pick one.
I was relieved when he went over the questions with me. I was able to determine the control and relevant questions before the test so there were no suprises. He asked Two Control questions and Three relevant questions, all together about 8 questions. He asked these series of questions three times in different order. The COuntermeasures I used were the ones easiest for me. COntracting the anal sphincter and breathing rapidly. I used a combination of breathing but mostly stuck with the rapid. I bit my tongue once but I felt all three was too much to do.
I am pretty confident I can know put this behind me.
To Mr. Maschke and Mr. Scalabrini,
Thanks, for presenting me with the lie they call the lie detector. And thanks for the replies.
when my name is completely cleared from any wrong doing,
I might go into more detail about the hell I went through because of the first test.
A while back when I was accused of doing illegal drugs I agreed to a polygraph examination to clear my name but failed. I was nervous when I walked into his office(My integrity and career was on the line) and I got the feeling from the moment I met him he believed I was guilty. He talked about how he has seen no one in my circumstances pass the test and everybody who was accused(where I came from) is always guilty. The pre test interview just made me more nervous than ever and I know now he had to have notice this. I calmed down at the start but the anxiety came over me in the middle of the test and failed. I got a lawyer afterwards and found out I had enough evidence to prove my innocence but the damage was already done. Without the poly I strongly feel I would have been cleared of any wrong doing.
Fast forward a few years later and I have not let the injustice get me down or hold me back. Along the way I have had some help from a local lawyer who deals with these cases and found some more evidence for me free of charge. But I was getting anxious and felt there is someting I need to do. I decided to take the polygraph again. This time I looked for a private polographer as I saved up some cash. I then came across this website and read the lie behind.... I read it many times, to make sure I pass!!!!!
I walked into his office a little nervous and we talked for about an hour. HE was a nice guy and said I sounded like I was telling the truth and he was glad to help me out. I didn't fall for it however. While we talked about the case I noticed he was trying to trap me into admissions, I mentally laughed almost the whole time during our discussion. Before the test began he stated he wanted to take that hour because he noticed I was a little uncomfortable and wanted to make sure I got relaxed, unlike the examiner in the first test. I mentally laughed the hardest during the Stim Test. It was a nice magic trick but I wonder what he would have said if I asked him to shuffle those cards before asking me to pick one.
I was relieved when he went over the questions with me. I was able to determine the control and relevant questions before the test so there were no suprises. He asked Two Control questions and Three relevant questions, all together about 8 questions. He asked these series of questions three times in different order. The COuntermeasures I used were the ones easiest for me. COntracting the anal sphincter and breathing rapidly. I used a combination of breathing but mostly stuck with the rapid. I bit my tongue once but I felt all three was too much to do.
I am pretty confident I can know put this behind me.
To Mr. Maschke and Mr. Scalabrini,
Thanks, for presenting me with the lie they call the lie detector. And thanks for the replies.
Posted by G Scalabr
- Mar 28, 2002, 10:52 PMQuotePropoly: Just tell the truth and you'll have nothing to worry about.
Spoken like a true 'grapher! Care to explain why this method didn't work for him the 1st time?
Posted by fightbackk
- Mar 28, 2002, 10:51 PMThis is in response to Propoly: Said who? Only an arrogant, and or ignorant person would claim that if you tell the truth you pass a polygraph (I don't mean to be insulting, but that's how polys work). I've been there; I've told the whole truth; I had nothing to hide or lie about; I didn't lie or hide anything; but they failed me accusing me of illegal drugs. Get reallllll.
Posted by Propoly
- Mar 28, 2002, 05:36 PMHi Drew,
Just tell the truth and you'll have nothing to worry about.
Just tell the truth and you'll have nothing to worry about.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Mar 12, 2002, 05:30 AMQuoteAre the control questions asked with the same series of relvant questions? Do they mix up the relevant with control questions when asking them over again? Or do they always ask the control question/s first then just the relevant questions?
In a "Control" Question "Test," each series of questions asked, or "chart presentation," will include a mixture of relevant, "control," and irrelevant questions. See, for example, Appendices A & B of the 2nd edition of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
QuoteSHould I expect specific Control question during this examination, regarding Drugs?
Not necessarily. Since drug abuse is the subject of the relevant questions, the "control" questions are likely to be about other behavior.
Posted by DrewZ
- Mar 11, 2002, 11:47 PMA while back I was accused of abusing drugs, and even though the allegations where false, I failed the Polygraph. I remember the stim test and the relevant questions but I dont remember what control question the examiner asked. He asked the same series of questions three times with about a 30 sec. pause between. The questions were not in the same
order the second and third time. The third time around is when the fear of failing came over me and it produced anxiety and is why I believe I failed.
I plan on taking it again in the near future and thanks to this website I feel preety confident. I have read the Lie behind... several times and I have a few questions.
Like I said before I can't recall what the control questions were or when they were asked.
Are the control questions asked with the same series of relvant questions? Do they mix up the relevant with control questions when asking them over again? Or do they always ask the control question/s first then just the relevant questions?
SHould I expect specific Control question during this examination, regarding Drugs?
any advice on how I can avoid the fear coming over me again will also be helpfull.
I will appreciate any reply, thanks.
order the second and third time. The third time around is when the fear of failing came over me and it produced anxiety and is why I believe I failed.
I plan on taking it again in the near future and thanks to this website I feel preety confident. I have read the Lie behind... several times and I have a few questions.
Like I said before I can't recall what the control questions were or when they were asked.
Are the control questions asked with the same series of relvant questions? Do they mix up the relevant with control questions when asking them over again? Or do they always ask the control question/s first then just the relevant questions?
SHould I expect specific Control question during this examination, regarding Drugs?
any advice on how I can avoid the fear coming over me again will also be helpfull.
I will appreciate any reply, thanks.