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Posted by InnocentWithPTSD
- Aug 26, 2007, 10:53 PMYesMan:
Yes, we are logging the times and dates of S_S apparitions. Know you are off the clock.
L
Yes, we are logging the times and dates of S_S apparitions. Know you are off the clock.
L
Posted by InnocentWithPTSD
- Aug 25, 2007, 08:13 PMYesMan:
Has your instrumentation recorded this response properly?
Here is yet another example to compare to the e-mails that came directly from KK.
Note the similar pattern of interruption and alteration. That MO is old.
What was so funny about that crime?
Why the puerile misdirection by SS?
Who is hanging about the scene afterwards laughing?
Yes, G-Man and Big Brother, your suggestions have helped.
Thanks. Perhaps you could give palerider a hand.
LP
PS: KK used to tell my children he was Spiderman when they were very young and while I was at work.
Has your instrumentation recorded this response properly?
Here is yet another example to compare to the e-mails that came directly from KK.
Note the similar pattern of interruption and alteration. That MO is old.
What was so funny about that crime?
Why the puerile misdirection by SS?
Who is hanging about the scene afterwards laughing?
Yes, G-Man and Big Brother, your suggestions have helped.
Thanks. Perhaps you could give palerider a hand.
LP
PS: KK used to tell my children he was Spiderman when they were very young and while I was at work.
Posted by Stan_Smith
- Aug 25, 2007, 06:35 AMQuote from: Lloyd Ploense on Aug 24, 2007, 07:58 PMHello Indiana 73:
A NJ police lieutenant gave me a three-take polygraph 'exam' recently. Never had I taken a polygraph 'exam' before and I knew almost nothing about such 'exams'. I had thought the 'exam' would help solve a crime both my new wife and I were victims of.
Before the 'exam', he read the questions to me. The first one was, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Volvo, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?" I said, "Wait a minute, are you telling me you know who did this? There was a white Volvo parked in front of our house that day!" The examiner left the room, came back a few minutes later and asked, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Humvee, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?"
The false allegations became even more ridiculous after that. The 'exam' ended with an intense interrogation in which I was accused of deception and actually of doing the deed myself. This really takes the cake because both my wife and I, unaware our leftover wedding cake had been tampered with, ate some and suffered sub_Stan_tially Lloyd, what, if anything, are you trying to say here?. I am not presently able to access any of the records through FOIA because the investigation seems still in progress. I wonder if local NJ LE ever reads the posts here...
The police crime lab has learned, through real science, that the chemicals found in the cake are readily available to any retail consumer.
Polygraphy? Bogus questions, bogus testing process, bogus operative premises, bogus interpretation, bogus results.
Now, about your problem: I get the impression your exam was for government employment. Perhaps someone does not like something about you and that is why your 'scores' on that 'exam' were changed a week later. Since polygraphy has as much scientific validity as palmistry, it would be easy for someone to claim, "Hey, look at this line here, we were wrong at first, he's a liar."
I hope things work out okay for you somehow.
Lloyd
Posted by InnocentWithPTSD
- Aug 24, 2007, 07:58 PMHello Indiana 73:
A NJ police lieutenant gave me a three-take polygraph 'exam' recently. Never had I taken a polygraph 'exam' before and I knew almost nothing about such 'exams'. I had thought the 'exam' would help solve a crime both my new wife and I were victims of.
Before the 'exam', he read the questions to me. The first one was, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Volvo, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?" I said, "Wait a minute, are you telling me you know who did this? There was a white Volvo parked in front of our house that day!" The examiner left the room, came back a few minutes later and asked, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Humvee, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?"
The false allegations became even more ridiculous after that. The 'exam' ended with an intense interrogation in which I was accused of deception and actually of doing the deed myself. This really takes the cake because both my wife and I, unaware our leftover wedding cake had been tampered with, ate some and suffered sub_Stan_tially. I am not presently able to access any of the records through FOIA because the investigation seems still in progress. I wonder if local NJ LE ever reads the posts here...
The police crime lab has learned, through real science, that the chemicals found in the cake are readily available to any retail consumer.
Polygraphy? Bogus questions, bogus testing process, bogus operative premises, bogus interpretation, bogus results.
Now, about your problem: I get the impression your exam was for government employment. Perhaps someone does not like something about you and that is why your 'scores' on that 'exam' were changed a week later. Since polygraphy has as much scientific validity as palmistry, it would be easy for someone to claim, "Hey, look at this line here, we were wrong at first, he's a liar."
I hope things work out okay for you somehow.
Lloyd
A NJ police lieutenant gave me a three-take polygraph 'exam' recently. Never had I taken a polygraph 'exam' before and I knew almost nothing about such 'exams'. I had thought the 'exam' would help solve a crime both my new wife and I were victims of.
Before the 'exam', he read the questions to me. The first one was, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Volvo, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?" I said, "Wait a minute, are you telling me you know who did this? There was a white Volvo parked in front of our house that day!" The examiner left the room, came back a few minutes later and asked, "Did Jim Graham, who drives a white Humvee, give you chemicals to put in your wedding cake?"
The false allegations became even more ridiculous after that. The 'exam' ended with an intense interrogation in which I was accused of deception and actually of doing the deed myself. This really takes the cake because both my wife and I, unaware our leftover wedding cake had been tampered with, ate some and suffered sub_Stan_tially. I am not presently able to access any of the records through FOIA because the investigation seems still in progress. I wonder if local NJ LE ever reads the posts here...
The police crime lab has learned, through real science, that the chemicals found in the cake are readily available to any retail consumer.
Polygraphy? Bogus questions, bogus testing process, bogus operative premises, bogus interpretation, bogus results.
Now, about your problem: I get the impression your exam was for government employment. Perhaps someone does not like something about you and that is why your 'scores' on that 'exam' were changed a week later. Since polygraphy has as much scientific validity as palmistry, it would be easy for someone to claim, "Hey, look at this line here, we were wrong at first, he's a liar."
I hope things work out okay for you somehow.
Lloyd
Posted by Indiana73
- Aug 24, 2007, 05:23 PMI took the exam in December. Notified first that I passed, then a week later that I failed. I asked for and received documentation through FOIA. The documents appeared to prove my assertion that I had grown more anxious due to a "fear of failure" towards the end after the examiner had left the room, returned and told me I was showing angst on the drug use question. Never used illegal drugs. Don't drink. Don't smoke. Part I: No deception. II: Inconclusive. III: Deception indicated. I appealed, asserting what I have just stated. Denied.
Any thoughts on this?
Any thoughts on this?