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Posted by Twoblock
- Oct 06, 2005, 11:18 AMJoy
Another alternative: If the dude shows up again, pop a cap on him and then call the police and tell them that you just solved the case without their stupid polygraph.
Another alternative: If the dude shows up again, pop a cap on him and then call the police and tell them that you just solved the case without their stupid polygraph.
Posted by Joy
- Oct 06, 2005, 07:58 AMThank you for your help. I will definately make my stand with the investigators clear. Senators have already been contacted but I never considered the NIG. I may only be a lowly military wife but my family is very connected and are outraged with the reaction and combined laziness of the local authorities and military investigators to cooperate and share information. Thank you for the articles and thank you to the site for opening my eyes to polygraphs.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 06, 2005, 07:51 AMJoy,
You have every right to explain to them why you do not trust polygraphs. In doing so, you can provide them with a printout of Dr. William G. Iacono's article, "Forensic 'Lie Detection': Procedures Without Scientific Basis":
http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-018.shtml
and Dr. Drew C. Richardson's "Evaluation and Opinion of CQT Polygraphy":
http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-028.shtml
If NCIS refuses to investigate the crimes you have reported, you can request assistance from your congressmember and senators. Alternatively, you can file a complaint with the Naval Inspector General, but I think the congressional route would likely be more productive.
You have every right to explain to them why you do not trust polygraphs. In doing so, you can provide them with a printout of Dr. William G. Iacono's article, "Forensic 'Lie Detection': Procedures Without Scientific Basis":
http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-018.shtml
and Dr. Drew C. Richardson's "Evaluation and Opinion of CQT Polygraphy":
http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-028.shtml
If NCIS refuses to investigate the crimes you have reported, you can request assistance from your congressmember and senators. Alternatively, you can file a complaint with the Naval Inspector General, but I think the congressional route would likely be more productive.
Posted by Joy
- Oct 06, 2005, 07:39 AMAs of now, I now realize that my husband and I were asked to come to the station to file a statement regarding the latest incident was actually a interrogation and not a formal statement. I was given "outs", for ex. "If you are cheating the info won't leave this room and the prosecutor will leave this alone and we will find help for you." My husband was also "interrogated" in the same manner. He was outraged at the mention of me taking a polygraph and even though I had already agreed, he informed them I would not take one. This is with NCIS and they cannot "force" me to take one, as I am a civilian but according to them unless I take the polygraph they will not continue looking for the attacker because he doesn't fit into any profiles and therefore must be a false statement. In my situation that is very frightening, with my husband in the military and coming and going so often it frightens me that without taking the test, I leave myself and children vulnerable to another attack, serious injury or death. Do I have any footing to stand on to explain to them that I do not trust polygraph tests and refuse to take one, without seeming guilty.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 06, 2005, 07:25 AMJoy,
Yes, your anxiety regarding the attacks may very well affect the outcome and would tend to increase the likelihood of a false positive outcome. The authorities may or may not actually believe in the polygraph. It's often used as a pretext for getting a suspect to agree to an interrogation without a lawyer present. It is clear that you are suspected of filing a false police report. It is even possible that any polygraph "test" to which you may agree will be rigged, with your "failure" being a pre-determined outcome in the hope of getting you to confess.
See the recent post Guilty until proven innocent for an example of what can happen during a police-administered polygraph interrogation. For more information on what you can expect should you agree to be polygraphed, see Chapter 3 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
You would be wise to refuse the polygraph and seek legal counsel.
Yes, your anxiety regarding the attacks may very well affect the outcome and would tend to increase the likelihood of a false positive outcome. The authorities may or may not actually believe in the polygraph. It's often used as a pretext for getting a suspect to agree to an interrogation without a lawyer present. It is clear that you are suspected of filing a false police report. It is even possible that any polygraph "test" to which you may agree will be rigged, with your "failure" being a pre-determined outcome in the hope of getting you to confess.
See the recent post Guilty until proven innocent for an example of what can happen during a police-administered polygraph interrogation. For more information on what you can expect should you agree to be polygraphed, see Chapter 3 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
You would be wise to refuse the polygraph and seek legal counsel.
Posted by Joy
- Oct 06, 2005, 07:05 AMMy home was broken into and I was sexually attacked and physically attacked. The intruder returned another time threatening me to stay away from the police or he will be back and physically attacked me again. I DO NOT KNOW MY ATTACKER/STALKER. He has returned a few other times to harass me and has left a few notes and taken some personal property. Because they (police/investigators) have no leads or clues they want me to take a polygraph to add to my "credibility" and I don't know what to do. It's almost damned if I do and and damned if I don't. Will my anxiety regarding the attacks possibly affect the outcome? My family believes me and are very supportive. Why would the authorities think a polygraph would add credibility? I don't feel I need countermeasures because I am telling the truth but from what I read the truth is irrelavent.