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Gordon H. Barland
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posted 07-12-2009 09:55 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon H. Barland † ††Edit/Delete Message
"Penn & Teller: Bullshit" is a TV series on Showtime which will present a program about the polygraph airing on Thursday, July 23rd. It will feature false positive errors and will include a segment with Doug Williams regarding countermeasures.

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detector
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posted 07-16-2009 12:13 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for detector ††Click Here to Email detector†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the heads up Gordon, I'll set the DVR to record it.

Based on the title of the show...which I've never heard of... it doesn't sound like there will be any balance to it. cest la vie.

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ebvan
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posted 07-19-2009 06:13 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan ††Click Here to Email ebvan†† ††Edit/Delete Message
I do know that Penn Jillette is a graduate of the Ringling Brothers Clown College. Is it possible that he and G.M. were Frat Brothers?

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fidibus
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posted 07-20-2009 10:48 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for fidibus ††Click Here to Email fidibus†† ††Edit/Delete Message
and I don't have showtime...

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Taylor
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posted 07-22-2009 08:21 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor ††Click Here to Email Taylor†† ††Edit/Delete Message
I just received a 'generic' invite from GM to watch this show. Apparently GM was also interviewed for the show.

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ebvan
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posted 07-22-2009 09:48 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan ††Click Here to Email ebvan†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Just one more piece to indicate Penn and George were Frat Brothers at the clown college.

I don't have Showtime, but I would be interested to know if they interview a practitioner with a current/recent training in a relevant field. I would also like to know if the examiner they use is a bonafide Grogan "Box Boy"

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Taylor
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posted 07-22-2009 04:30 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor ††Click Here to Email Taylor†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Penn & Teller have a teaser video on their site http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do

The examiner is Larry Diapaola/Modern Polygraph who is a senior member of PEOA. Does anyone know if he went to an APA approved school?

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Taylor
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posted 07-22-2009 04:38 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor ††Click Here to Email Taylor†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Okay...that name (Larry Diapaola) is familiar to me. Was he in on a discussion before? I searched his name on PP and didn't come up with anything...unless I am spelling it wrong.

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posted 07-22-2009 06:15 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for detector ††Click Here to Email detector†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Donna,

Larry D is a poser trained by 'box boy' and a complete fraud.

I watched an episode of the show a couple of days ago to see what the shows were like. This one was about the end of the world in 2012. They made the 'experts' they hired look like complete goobers (rightfully so in my opinion). Point is, the show is going to trash polygraph, I feel confident of that. The good part of that news is that they chose just the right polygraph posers to make look like goobers. I'm kind of looking forward to the show.

Oh and a content warning. This is not a rated g show, nudity and language were sprinkled in throughout the show. I guess they had to do something to make it more interesting.

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Fed Employee
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posted 07-22-2009 10:26 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Fed Employee ††Click Here to Email Fed Employee†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Larry is indeed a Groganite out of the San Francisco area. Pat Coffey has quite a bit of insight on Larry. From what I remember, Larry is a failed real estate agent. He ended up on Grogan's "Member of the Month" website for several months. Here is Larry's website: www.modernpolygraph.com

On a side note, Penn and Teller were previously interviewed regarding their show. They were quoted as saying they are "biased as hell." That's entertainment!

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ebvan
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posted 07-23-2009 02:16 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan ††Click Here to Email ebvan†† ††Edit/Delete Message
From his own website

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Larry DiPaola
Larry DiPaola graduated from the University of California at Santa Barbara in 1987 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Liberal Studies. He went on to study the science known as the Psychophysiological Detection of Deception. He is a senior member of Polygraph Examiners of America.

He also cautions the public
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Donít have a polygraph test done by someone that does not have an office a website, insurance or flexibility is scheduling. Chances are they are not a professional polygraph examiner.
but he doesn't mention accredited training anywhere on hs web site. hmmmm

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Barry C
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posted 07-25-2009 10:26 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C ††Click Here to Email Barry C†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Did anybody watch? I didn't. It would have been too irritating. It sounds as if the BS investigators got BS'd themselves.

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posted 07-26-2009 09:05 AM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for Fed Employee ††Click Here to Email Fed Employee†† ††Edit/Delete Message
Yes...yes...I'll admit it, I watched it. Their show is late night and for mature audiences. They are on record stating they are biased in their views. Most of the shows will focus on several individuals who support their view(s) then to represent the other side they bring in some clown. Well, nothing different here. Doug Williams received more time than did our friend George. Williams was trying to show two of the show's assistants how to "beat" the polygraph by having them squeeze their sphincter muscle. He was not using movement sensors.

On the pro side was our Groganite friend Mr. DiPaola from the San Francisco area. They showed him doing an exam re: infidelity. DiPaola is bald so Penn/Teller kept call him names such as cue ball, Dr. Phil, Montel, Curley, Van Diesel, along with a few harsher names. DiPaola does the exam, the kid goes DI, he elicits some admissions, but the show twists the wording.

They twisted the wording of the 1998 Supreme Court Case and claim polygraph has never caught a spy.

Overall, I'm sure George would have wanted more face time and Doug seemed a bubble off of center.

That's entertainment.

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ebvan
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posted 07-26-2009 04:15 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan ††Click Here to Email ebvan†† ††Edit/Delete Message
OK I found a place from which to download the episode 153MB It took awhile.
http://stagevu.com/video/wnsipvtabpyh

I don't think the show hurt polygraph at all and based on his reserved comments GM doesn't seem to think it helped his position much either.

I hope Grogan an company place a big "As seen on Bullshit" ad on all of their we sites.

It was kind of fun to watch Doug manufacture a response by stating to his victim.

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Now I am going to ask you a very personal question... Have you ever in your life robbed a bank?
and Larry Diapaola tell his guy it was time to get
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strapped up

Every time Doug Williams said the phrase "Squeeze your anal sphincter" I thought his head would implode from the pressure.

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stat
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posted 07-26-2009 08:11 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for stat ††Click Here to Email stat†† ††Edit/Delete Message
nuked---tried to inbed the video from Ebvan's link for direct forum play---and it's full of malware. Sorry Ralph---I deleted it quick.

[This message has been edited by stat (edited 07-26-2009).]

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ebvan
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posted 07-28-2009 07:04 PM ††† Click Here to See the Profile for ebvan ††Click Here to Email ebvan†† ††Edit/Delete Message
I downloaded the avi file to my computer rather that streaming it. No problems. No malware.

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