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Esther's 7 steps of pretest

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chaz
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posted 08-29-2007 09:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for chaz Click Here to Email chaz Edit/Delete Message
Hello all

I have reviewed Esther Harwell's notes on setting up comparisons and will now use the 7 steps of pre test by the book and carry that as a template/checklist whenever I may conduct an exam.

Its a start.

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Ted Todd
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posted 08-29-2007 01:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd Edit/Delete Message
Chaz,

Can you post the seven steps so we can all see and discuss them?

THX

Ted

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chaz
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posted 08-29-2007 08:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for chaz Click Here to Email chaz Edit/Delete Message
Todd,

The Federal Pretest as Esther Harwell says:
Pre case preparation followed by
Step1. Introduction- Id, introductions, formalities
Step2.Overview- provide a 'menu' of what is going to happen (steps 3-8)
Step3.Rights Advisment and Consent- rights before consent
Step4.Biological data- determine suitability for testing, ask about prior polys, if they have done research but down play it,
Step5.PDD Explanation/F3- explain components, stress importance of 100% truthful answers required to all questions
Step6. Discussion of Issue
Step7.Question Introduction- after completion of relevant question review transition to comparison, stress that the questions are as important as the questions about the incident under investigation. Can say behavioral studies used by the Govt etc show that...(so it lessens odds of examinee fighting you on answering comparison type questions). use the 1-10 honesty scale ratio.
Set up the foundation before asking the question, if you ask too fast its easier for admissions.Throw some emotion into it, body language should support examiner disappointment to any admission on camparisons.
Then ACQT test
NB: Biggest mistake- To minimimize or excusing past behaviour related to comparison questions issues. the further we get away from the basics the worse the problem becomes.
(Duely noted guys!!!!)
Thanks to all on the forum and Esther Harwell.

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polyestr
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posted 08-31-2007 08:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for polyestr Click Here to Email polyestr Edit/Delete Message
Chaz,

I am glad that you found what I put out at the APA as useful. If there is anything I can do to help you or others please let me know. My goal is to have as many examiners as possible doing things the proper way. It can only add to our credibility! I can be reached by email at: harwelle@daca.mil

Esther Harwell

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Ted Todd
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posted 08-31-2007 09:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd Edit/Delete Message
polyestr,

Nice to see you back on the board! Where have you been??

Ted

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polyestr
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posted 08-31-2007 12:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for polyestr Click Here to Email polyestr Edit/Delete Message
Actually Ted, I do try to check your board at least once a week. I have just been busy (yes, some of us in the Government actually work). OK, maybe "some of us" is overstated.

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 08-31-2007 03:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie Edit/Delete Message
Ted, be careful what you respond to Esther. In a heads up between the two of you I pick Esther.

Esther, what steps are they talking about and what is a pre-test?

Jack

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Taylor
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posted 08-31-2007 06:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor Click Here to Email Taylor Edit/Delete Message
Congratulations Esther on your recent APA award! I look forward to meeting you one day. Taylor

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polyestr
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posted 09-04-2007 07:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for polyestr Click Here to Email polyestr Edit/Delete Message
Taylor, thank you.
Jack, you never fail to amaze me!! I would be happy to give you remedial training, just give the word.

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 09-04-2007 03:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie Edit/Delete Message
Esther, you know I love you. What award did you get? I haven't heard. I do know you do good work and you have always helped when needed.

I do suffer from old zhiemers and can't remember if I had medial traning we may need to do that first.

Jack

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Taylor
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posted 09-04-2007 05:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Taylor Click Here to Email Taylor Edit/Delete Message
Jack, she received the APA William L Bennett Memorial Award.

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Ted Todd
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posted 09-04-2007 08:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd Edit/Delete Message
Jeeesuz Jack,

Wake up and smell the decade!

All my love,

Ted

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polyestr
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posted 09-05-2007 07:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for polyestr Click Here to Email polyestr Edit/Delete Message
Jack,

I love you too. The good news about old farts like you is that I have job security! When you can remember, let me know when you want that "medial" training.

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 09-05-2007 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie Edit/Delete Message
Do I know you?

Jack

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 09-05-2007 09:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie Edit/Delete Message
Ted, by the time you get out of the eighties my nasal passages may be working well enough to smell something, or not.

Jack

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