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8-hour CI poly, is it normal?!
Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:09pm
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A while back I took a CI poly that lasted 9 hours, minus a one hour lunch break, for a net of 8 hours.  Now I wasn't strapped up to the poly machine the whole time.  In fact, the actually polygraph was probably only attached to me for a total of one hour at the most.  The remainder of the time included going over my background and various interrogations and accusations.   The questions were mostly about foreign contacts, foreign travel, leaking classified info, and such.  However, this CI poly also seems to venture into my personal life about drug and foreign women (I am a straight male).  I was harshly interrogated and accused of hiding something, but I held my ground and instead thought about just quitting and walking out of the whole damn thing.

This was for an IC contractor job.  To this day, I don't know if I got the job because I haven't heard anything.  Though my background check was completed with my references contacted and all that jazz.  My POCs either don't respond or just give me some vague update.   

Is this normal for a polygraph session to take the whole freakin day?!   
Is it normal for a CI poly with the IC to ask about my personal and social life?


I left there and went straight to the liquor store.

I would have went to my dealer and bought some weed if it wasn't for this stupid security clearance.

Thoughts about this fiasco?
  
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Re: 8-hour CI poly, is it normal?!
Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 12:47pm
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To address your specific questions, no, it is not typical for a polygraph examination to run all day. Nor is it normal for questions about one's personal and social life to be asked during a CI polygraph (though it is not unprecedented).
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 27th, 2025 at 3:35am
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This happened to me.  The CI poly questions were actually all CI.  They asked questions like:

"Have you ever leaked classified info to someone who is not authorized?"
"Have you ever engaged in espionage?"
"Have you ever worked for a foreign government?"
"Have you ever tried to access an IT system to which you were unauthorized?"

Before this, they go over your entire SF86, which includes the personal lifestyle stuff like drug use, crime, mental health, and even sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll.  The way they get applicants is that one an applicant opens a door to a topic, then the polygrapher can ask more questions about it.  The polygrapher leads you into talking about your personal and sex life for this reason, and then will interrogate you on it, even though these questions are not asked during the actual polygraph test.  This way, since the applicant "opened the door," the polygrapher is still following standard authorized procedure.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 30th, 2025 at 4:48am
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Hey George.  For someone who goes through this experience, but doesn't make any confessions, and has their entire background check completed with references contacted and police and credit records pulled, what are the chances of that person being granted a clearance?

Like the whole TS/SCI+poly background check is done, all red flags being reconfirmed by references and records, no additional poly admissions, but now the person's file sits in adjudication.  Is this a good sign?  Asking for a friend . . .
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 30th, 2025 at 4:58am
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Hey George.  For someone who goes through this experience, but doesn't make any confessions, and has their entire background check completed with references contacted and police and credit records pulled, what are the chances of that person being granted a clearance?

Like the whole TS/SCI+poly background check is done, all red flags being reconfirmed by references and records, no additional poly admissions, but now the person's file sits in adjudication.  Is this a good sign?  Asking for a friend . . .


Overall, I think this augurs well.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 30th, 2025 at 12:33pm
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Thanks George. I just needed reassurance. lol.  With a few red flags in my "friend's" file, one would hope that if the agency still goes through with security processing after honest answers in the pre-screening questions, an overly honest SF86, everything reconfirmed during the BI and poly, and no extra admissions, that all is good.  Though you never know with these 3-letter agencies . . .
  
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