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I am guilty but passed. Here is how.
Sep 24th, 2024 at 10:16pm
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I am not going to get into the details of what I am guilty of.  Let's just say it isn't even a gray area.

How I passed:
I read every page of the pdf on this site.   
I made sure I understood what was going to happen and the environment that I was going to be in.  No surprises to mess me up.
I made sure I knew the 3 types of questions asked

Here is what I thought made the biggest difference.

I practiced.   
I recorded multiple tests on my phone.  With all three types of questions.  I created a 20 second pause between questions.  I mixed up the questions with multiple questions.
This got me acclimated to the questions and there was no shock factor.

I used my iphone watch to monitor my heart rate
I practiced elevating my heart rate during the control questions and lowering my heart rate for the relevant questions.
I practiced my breathing
I did this every day for two weeks.

I passed on all questions which I lied to pass on all relevant questions.

  
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Re: I am guilty but passed. Here is how.
Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2024 at 12:02am
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I am not going to get into the details of what I am guilty of.  Let's just say it isn't even a gray area.

How I passed:
I read every page of the pdf on this site.  
I made sure I understood what was going to happen and the environment that I was going to be in.  No surprises to mess me up.
I made sure I knew the 3 types of questions asked

Here is what I thought made the biggest difference.

I practiced.  
I recorded multiple tests on my phone.  With all three types of questions.  I created a 20 second pause between questions.  I mixed up the questions with multiple questions.
This got me acclimated to the questions and there was no shock factor.

I used my iphone watch to monitor my heart rate
I practiced elevating my heart rate during the control questions and lowering my heart rate for the relevant questions.
I practiced my breathing
I did this every day for two weeks.

I passed on all questions which I lied to pass on all relevant questions.



Good job!  You are not the only one who has made this claim.  There have been several posts on this forum from people who say they lied and passed.  I have linked a few of the stories below.  There are other TS/SCI+poly cleared individuals who commit crimes and keep their clearance.  The main reasons for this are that if someone commits a crime, gets away with it, and nobody knows about it, then they can't really be caught.  This happens all the time.  Think of how many people that travel overseas, get drunk and drive, gamble, get into fights, buy hookers, and/or maybe just bribe the police out of the situation.

Not many people will risk drug use because of those random drug tests, but hookers, fights, and alcohol are standard.  Plus, once you have the job, it is rare that you will lose the job for failing your periodical polygraphs.

There have also been many news stories of people convicted of crimes that they committed while passing a polygraph.  The news doesn't like to exploit this information but it is there if you do your research.  These are only the people who were caught.  One recent story is CIA Officer Brian Jeffrey Raymond who just got sentenced to decades in prison.

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1346867811/0#1

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1323470163/0#0

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1410653918/9#9

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1590902836/0#0


  
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Reply #2 - Today at 3:40pm
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I passed my poly too, WITHOUT USING COUNTERMEASURES, and I lied my ass off.

I know I passed because I was granted my clearance and have been working in a SCIF with classified info for the past year.

How did I pass without using CMs?  Easy, I just didn't make a confession, and I remained calm throughout the whole interrogation, which is all the poly is.  I knew they would accuse me of lying and withholding info about some crime.  This is standard polygraph procedure so I just relaxed and thought about lying on a beach the whole time.  Yes, I've committed many crimes, including cheating my taxes for the past several years.  I did not tell the polygrapher anything.  Result:  PASS!

Folks, no need to try to use CMs and possibly screw up, just don't admit to anything.  If you can survive the harsh interrogation for several hours, you'll be fine.  It is more of a mental endurance than a lie detector.

  
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Reply #3 - Today at 7:59pm
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I "failed" the CVSA and was 100% honest.  Granted, I am a high-strung individual who has been on high blood pressure meds off and on over the years.  The piece of shit that gave me the CVSA kept trying to get me to admit to a crime I did not commit, and he claimed the CVSA was nearly 100% accurate.  While conducting research, I came across the Brian Ross interview with Charles Humble on YouTube.  When I saw the interview, I thought Charles Humble had to be the dumbest cock sucker in existence. Anyway, shot that over to my lawyer, who sent it to opposing counsel.  They dropped the CVSA argument in a New York minute.
  
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