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Perpetuating the Myth of the "Lie Detector"
Sep 18th, 2023 at 2:08am
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The federal polygraph community must perpetuate the myth that the polygraph is a lie detector for their system to work. They need to ensure the prisoners are chained in the cave at all costs and see only the shadows cast on the wall in front of them without seeing the puppeteers and the fire behind them causing the shadows. All they want you to know are the shadows on the wall. They disparage prisoners who have escaped from the cave and are returning to the cave to share with the prisoners what they saw and liberate them from their ignorance. They disparage sites like antipolygraph.org and try to convince them that the polygraph is a lie detector. This is so that once an examinee shows signs of "deception," the polygraph examiner can provide them a chance to "redeem" themselves by sharing whatever caused the physiological reactions so that the examiner can "help" the examiner succeed. This provides the polygraph examiner a pathway to interrogate the examinee and elicit disqualifying admissions and confessions.
  
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Re: Perpetuating the Myth of the "Lie Detector"
Reply #1 - Sep 18th, 2023 at 5:25am
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Indeed, I think one of the more sinister aspects of governmental reliance on the pseudoscience of polygraphy is that it requires that government promote public belief in such pseudoscience.

I'd be interested to know what you were told about polygraphy prior to your CIA polygraph examination. Were you told not to research the polygraph or otherwise discouraged from doing so? And did anyone at the Agency say anything about polygraph critics in general or AntiPolygraph.org in particular?
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 18th, 2023 at 1:12pm
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Hi George,

I was not told anything about the polygraph by my government contractor beforehand. I was just given documents that stated the directions to the polygraph site, the Dulles Discovery Building in Chantilly, VA. The document said to bring identification, not electronics, and arrive 30 minutes early. Only when I arrived at the processing unit, where all the examinees sat in a room and watched this short video about the polygraph, similar to the NSA polygraph video you addressed on YouTube, did I realize I was at the CIA. During the first polygraph exam in the pre-test phase, the polygraph examiner asked me what research I had done into the polygraph. I did not share with him everything I researched, but I just said I did general searches on government websites providing information on the polygraph. I remember him telling me that there is a lot of false and misleading information on antipolygraph websites on the internet, which I should be wary of, without explicitly mentioning this site.
  
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