I'm not going to dive into every detail about myself but at this point, I don't even know where to look.

Late last year, I went into a polygraph examination with a certain 3 letter agency and was told I failed.  I was supposedly holding back information about committing a serious crime.  Unbelievable.  I sat there with the polygrapher and kept denying any accusation he made about me.  I left there pissed off as I've never been involved with anything in that matter in my life.

So, being barred from reapplying for 2 years, I had to look elsewhere.  I applied for another federal agency and made it all the way to the polygraph stage.  But before getting to this polygraph stage, I studied the Lie Behind the Lie Detector extensively as I never wanted to receive a false positive for something I've never committed again.  I read the whole book and also watched some of the YouTube videos.  I actually practiced a handful of times before going into this polygraph. I was more than enough prepared going into this BS application step this time.  I felt like the the deck of cards was equal this time around.

My apnea blocking and tongue biting was on point.  I can tell you the difference between a control/relevant/irrelevant question with ease and performed this functions perfectly and at the precise time.

After the first phase, I could tell my polygrapher was upset.  He said I know what you are doing and you need to quit it.  I looked at him confused and asked him to clarify what the problem was.  He didn't reply.

I go back in there and he rephrases the same relevant questions and has me go through it again.  Once again, I perform the apnea blocking and tongue biting with perfection and without any chance of being seen/caught.   

At one stage, he stops and only asks control questions and irrelevant questions.  I could tell what he was doing so I continued the same as I would if there was going to be any relevant questions coming, but there wasn't.  There was only a control question, followed by an irrelevant question and this happened a few times. I didn't know how I should of responded but I continued the same countermeasures.

He continues on and goes back to questions with control/relevant/and irrelevant questions and once again, my apnea blocking and tongue biting were on point.  I was perfectly breathing during each relevant question as well.
He has me wait in the lobby and brings me in shortly after.

He never says that I passed or failed but sits there and tries to get me to admit to researching the polygraph etc and keeps saying that I could be a mole or spy etc.  I deny everything and tell him I have no idea what he is talking about.  I tell him if there's nothing left to ask in the chair, then I believe we're done here because I'm not going to sit here and be told that I'm a spy or mole because I love this country.

So, a few days go by and I get a disqualifying letter from the agency.  This same agency doesn't specify whether you failed or not but it's definitely implied.

I'm kind of at a loss right now.  I go in there initially (late last year) and told I'm a criminal and fail.  Next, I research this book thoroughly and follow every single piece of advice and I get told I'm a mole and get nixed from the process.

In all honesty, I don't even know what I can do next time.  I feel like I'm somehow blacklisted and I'm being prevented somehow from moving forward from any agency since I "failed" the first polygraph.  I feel like any polygrapher after my first polygraph CAN'T pass me because I failed the first one.  I'm truly disheartened on where to turn at this point and it makes me wonder if I went in there without any of this knowledge from Anti-Polygraph if I would have passed.

Hopefully someone can give me some kind of answer as to what happened.  Thanks

You got exactly what you deserved.  You engaged in countermeasures and got caught.  You just didn't admit to it.  Too bad, so sad.

George W. Maschke wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 7:35am:


Obviously the polygrapher was biased towards me knowing I had a "failed" polygraph just a few months prior.  I looked into this heavily in your book, I believe pages around 167 etc.

I never read anything or any topic that discusses the polygrapher discovering a "cookie cutter" method.   

The book is just misleading, that's all.

quickfix wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:


Hey look, an internet tough guy! Go suck a dick little bitch. 

Cheated on the polygraph? How so? The polygraph is a joke and proves nothing. I bet you're a polygrapher based on your lame shit talking.

George W. Maschke wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 4:15pm:


Once I get home later, I'll go over the book so I can cite some of the material.

quickfix wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 3:38pm:

The statement from quickfix that I bolded seems to imply that reading the book TLBTLD actually can help someone beat the polygraph!  Is quickfix confessing that the countermeasures in TLBTLD work?!

Agent 762 wrote on Mar 5^th, 2022 at 4:39pm:


Agent 762, are you still there?  Any updates, or did the feds come and snatch you up like what happened to many others who posted on this board and then disappeared?