Brad,

If I were in your position, I would withdraw my application for employment with U.S. Customs and Border Protection. This agency has the highest reported pre-employment polygraph failure rate of any federal agency (roughly 70%). Failing the polygraph with any federal agency results in a lifetime bar from employment with that agency and will harm your prospects of employment with other federal agencies (even for positions without a polygraph requirement).

Note also that the fact that you rescheduled your polygraph the same day you were scheduled to take it may be interpreted by your polygraph operator as an indication that you are a liar.

For more on the shortcomings of polygraphy, and why it is prudent to avoid any federal agency with a pre-employment polygraph requirement, see The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

https://antipolygraph.org/pubs.shtml

George 

Thanks for the advice. 

I was recruited for this job to begin with so I am sure it will be easier to get out without much effort.  I will not send a letter as not to leave a record as I have already wasted enough time completing applications and a host of other documents.  I would like to get them back but they are nothing I am ashamed of as I have a good work record.   

It did not take too much reading on your site to agree with you either. I cannot believe that people sat through those exams from start to finish.   

Your last post on the CBI video is interesting. I will say that woman examiner was pleasant which certainly was not the case when I took my polygraph.   

In your last post on that you refer to a CBI report file.  That was not any attachment I could see.  I was interested in seeing that as my polygraph ended up being 2 -3 pages as I viewed it one day when I was doing an audit of my personnel file. 

Thanks again and have a good holiday!

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Brad,

I would be interested to know what the CBP polygraph operator told your friend in this regard. CBP's "pre-test outline" for the recently adopted TES-C screening format instructs the operator to present the subject with the following spiel:

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As for any claim that the information presented here is false and misleading, note that our information is based in large part on the U.S. government's own documentation of its polygraph techniques. This forum is also open to polygraph operators, who are welcome to publicly correct any "incorrect and misleading" information they believe we present. You'll find that they're awfully silent.

George

My friend ended up calling me later on that evening.

He was still quite upset over all of it as he is concerned it will impact him later on down the line. 

He was insistent that I forgo this exam totally after his experience.  He too had taken a polygraph and said that federal examiners were much different that police examiners. 

The appointment was not timely as they were late in getting him in due to some kind of issue,

He said the length of time spent was far greater and the attempt to place fear in your mind even before the exam started.

I read that document you posted and there points on there he told me about.  He had never been to AP but the examiner was trying to get him to admit otherwise.  He also asked about some of the books that were available on AP that were from CBP.   

I think what got his attention the most was the lack of experience or confidence this examiner showed, which he made up for by being sarcastic.  He left the room a few times and came back quick as if he was getting assistance from someone. 

I sent over that document to him to read to see and I am sure he will get back to me about it.   

I am drafting my exit letter to the recruiter today and will send it off.  If I learn more I will let you know or suggest he post to the site.

Brad,

The story about CBP putting two people in prison for teaching polygraph countermeasure techniques is true. Their names are Chad Dixon and Doug Williams, and they were targeted in an investigation called Operation Lie Busters. I believe that I, too, was (unsuccessfully) targeted for entrapment in this investigation.

Aunty Agony wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2018 at 2:25pm:


You're absolutely right. While it's true that CBP targeted Chad and Doug because they were teaching people how to pass or beat polygraph "tests," their undercover agents set up other "crimes" with which to charge them (wire fraud, obstruction of an agency proceeding, mail fraud, and witness tampering). It is not a crime to teach polygraph countermeasures.