That logo is just beautiful!   Where did you ever come across it?

quickfix wrote on Mar 26^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:

Come on man.  I read 5210.91 so many times, I can recite it word for word.  I neither refused nor failed to complete a PSS.  In fact, I was early each and every time.  I have probably sat through over 40 hours of interrogation and never left until I was dismissed.

Besides, I was already in access – had the same job for 14 years before this happened.  This was not a case of initial eligibility or assignment.

You are correct that there is nothing in the reg that MANDATES me to undergo additional testing.  What it does say though, is if the additional examination fails to resolve all relevant questions, the Head of the DoD Component may initiate a CI investigation in accordance with DoD policy.

What it doesn’t say is, go ahead and use the polygraph results by themselves to take unfavorable actions against the poor sucker.  It is an indisputable fact that it explicitly prohibits it.

The rulings that are coming will be of the LANDMARK variety.

The polygraph industry and those who use it to commit abuse are in for a very rude awakening.

I’ve attached 5210.91 here to clear up any further confusion on this matter.

Quickfix, do you work for DIA, or what?

Circular logic and semantics aside, the indisputable material fact in this case is that NO UNFAVORABLE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS shall be taken based solely on the results of the polygraph.

Read that again and come to terms with it.

Your reference to Enclosure 2. h. is like something that the DIA Office of Security would use to further confuse the situation.  How the hell does designating the positions that require a PSS have anything to do with using the results as the sole basis for taking unfavorable actions.

Polygraph abuse, pure and simple.

Fire away!

Thank you for helping to create the document that will exonerate me.

I really hate to keep you waiting - The judicial process is so slow.  Believe me, I tried to get the abuse to stop over three years ago.  People like yourself can't continue the cover-up much longer.

It's incredible to me that people actually believe that they can punish someone based solely on the results of the polygraph.

I really hope for your sake, that you're not involved in this type of abuse.

"When the wicked advance against me to slander me, it is my enemies who will stumble and fall."

- Psalm 27:2

Once again, you are quoting only the sections that appear favorable to you.  You ignore the part of 5210.91 that says "except as provided in Sections 6 and 7 of Enclosure 4".

Now here is what section 6 and 7 of Enclosure 4 say:

6. REFUSAL TO TAKE OR COMPLETE A PSS. DoD-affiliated personnel who refuse to take or complete a polygraph examination, and are in positions designated as requiring a PSS polygraph examination as part of determining initial eligibility for access to Top Secret, SAP, or other sensitive intelligence or operational information or for initial assignment or detail to the CIA or other IC elements, MAY BE DENIED access, assignment, or detail.
7. FAILURE TO RESOLVE A PSS. DoD-affiliated personnel in positions cited in section 6 of this enclosure who are unable to resolve all relevant questions of a PSS shall be so advised. The results of the examination shall be forwarded to the requesting agency.
a. If, after reviewing the examination results, the requesting agency determines that they raise a significant question relevant to the individual’s eligibility for a security clearance or continued access, the individual shall be given an opportunity to undergo additional examination.
b. If the additional examination fails to resolve all relevant questions, the Head of the DoD Component may initiate a CI investigation in accordance with DoD policy.
c. Additionally, the Head of the relevant DoD Component may temporarily suspend an individual’s access to controlled information and deny the individual assignment or detail that is contingent on such access, based upon a written finding that, considering the results of the examination and the extreme sensitivity of the classified information involved, access under the circumstances poses an unacceptable risk to the national security. Such temporary suspension of access may not form the part of any basis for an adverse administrative action or an adverse personnel action.
d. The individual shall be advised in writing of the determination, that the determination may be appealed to the Head of the relevant DoD Component, and that his or her final determination is conclusive.

If you're going to wave regs around, make sure you have the ENTIRE reg, not just the pages you like.

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What exactly is the definition and purpose of the "FOUO" classification?