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Does polygraph ask about medical?
Apr 1st, 2014 at 1:27am
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Hey my recruiter told me to lie about my childhood bronchitus and said I will never get caught. Nobody really knows about this so there is no way I can get caught on a TS interview. So if I get assigned to a TSI job requiring a polygraph, will these questions come up?

Will I get a question like "have you ever lied on a form?" And if red flags show up, will I be intergated and come under investigation?
  
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Re: Does polygraph ask about medical?
Reply #1 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 4:22am
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Regrettably, it appears that to help meet their quotas, recruiters sometimes instruct applicants to omit details on their enlistment papers. This puts service members in a dilemma when they seek security clearances.

To address the question in the title of your post, although there is no relevant question about medical history in polygraph screening interrogations, it is possible that you'll be questioned about it during the pre-test or post-test phases.

It is not unusual for a question like "Have you ever lied on an official form?" to be asked, but in the context of a polygraph screening, it would be treated as a control question, not a relevant one.

It is unusual for an investigation to be launched solely based on polygraph chart readings. The main purpose of the polygraph is to elicit admissions.

To learn more about polygraph methodology (it has no scientific basis and depends on the polygrapher lying to and otherwise deceiving the examinee), see our book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

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Reply #2 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:45pm
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So what are my chances of getting into huge trouble?

In the pre-test and post-test, will I still be hooked up?

Also on the irrevelant control questions...how should I respond?
  
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Re: Does polygraph ask about medical?
Reply #3 - Apr 2nd, 2014 at 7:34pm
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Mistertst wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 6:45pm:
So what are my chances of getting into huge trouble?


I don't think you're likely to get into significant trouble for having lied, upon your recruiter's instructions, about a childhood disease.

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In the pre-test and post-test, will I still be hooked up?


No. The pre- and post-test portions of a polygraph examination are typically conducted without the attachments connected to the examinee.

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Also on the irrevelant control questions...how should I respond?


There are "irrelevant" questions and "control" questions, but there's no such thing as an "irrelevant control" question. You'll find the various polygraph question types explained in detail in Chapter 3 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 4:13am
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About the control questions in the beggining, when they say things like "have you ever to anyone of authority?" or "have you ever lied on a form" How should I respond? With the truth or with lie?
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 5:06am
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You should give the answer that is expected as determined in the pre-test interview.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:50pm
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So what is the answer expected?
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 3:59pm
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See this thread regarding the expected answer to a "control" question:

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1372332011
  

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Reply #8 - Apr 25th, 2014 at 3:16am
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So what type of questions do they ask for important interogation questions? Just National security stuff? Are they silmilar to FBI and NSA questions?

Also for Control questions...what if one control questions are off the charts compared to other control questions? Will I be suspected of a lie and get in trouble if the control question is a serious issue?
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 25th, 2014 at 5:38pm
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Mistertst wrote on Apr 25th, 2014 at 3:16am:
Also for Control questions...what if one control questions are off the charts compared to other control questions? Will I be suspected of a lie and get in trouble if the control question is a serious issue?

Mister,
I don't know you mean by "off the charts" control questions. In the thread the George directed you to, it mentions the appropriate section in TLBTLD which you should read to help in your understanding of control questions and their purpose. From your post, I think you need to read it thoroughly and come back with any residual questions you may have.
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 25th, 2014 at 6:24pm
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I read the thing. Off the charts means looks like a lie. So if there is a question like "Have you lied to authority" and it turns out to be lie(by comparing to other control questions), when I say no, what are the consrquences?
  
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Re: Does polygraph ask about medical?
Reply #11 - Apr 25th, 2014 at 7:04pm
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In a control question test, polygraphers expect to see reactions to control questions. The key to passing is to show stronger reactions to the control questions than to the relevant questions.

The Department of Defense typically uses a "directed-lie" technique called the "Test for Espionage and Sabotage." In this variant, the polygraph operator actually instructs the examinee to lie to the control questions. You'll find examples of the questions asked on the Test for Espionage and Sabotage in the federal polygraph handbook:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/federal-polygraph-handbook-02-10-2006.pdf
  

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Re: Does polygraph ask about medical?
Reply #12 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 2:41am
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Does the Polygraph ask questions like "Have you lied in your pre-test interview?" IS it Control or a Test question?
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 4:25am
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Mistertst wrote on Apr 27th, 2014 at 2:41am:
Does the Polygraph ask questions like "Have you lied in your pre-test interview?" IS it Control or a Test question? 

Mister,
I have not heard this exact wording. Sometimes, the question "Do you intend to tell me the truth today?" is asked, but more often used as an unscored sacrifice relevant. I stand by my previous recommendation that you study the related sections in TLBTLD more thoroughly to learn to be able to differentiate between the various types of questions.
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Re: Does polygraph ask about medical?
Reply #14 - Apr 27th, 2014 at 4:58am
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Thank you guys for your help. So the test questions that they only care about are about National Security?

Also I committed Internet forum fraud on an Army website by lying about my name and birthdate(I wanted ask about underage drinking and didn't want to use my name) and also pirated movies online. (never got in trouble or went to jail)Should be concerned at all?

Would be asked about these lies in my post test interview? If so...what should I do?
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