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Apr 28th, 2013 at 10:44am
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i would appreciate some advice, 
i was accused of cheating on my partner and it has caused so many issues regarding the trust in our relationship so i offered to pay for and take a polygraph test, im having it done in a few weeks with don cargill, but i am very nervous in failing as i tend to overthink everything, please help.
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 12:17pm
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My advice is to cancel your appointment. Don Cargill is a charlatan, as are all polygraph operators. Polygraph "testing" has no scientific basis, and it's certainly no basis for establishing trust in a relationship.
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 12:32pm
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the only thing is if i dont do thr test now my partner will automatically asume i am guilty.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 28th, 2013 at 12:57pm
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It sounds like you partner already assumes you're guilty. You can share with him or her the information available on this website, especially that found in our book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

Polygraphs may be suitable as a ratings gimmick for trash TV (Don Cargill performs for the tawdry Trisha show), but it would indeed be foolish of you to throw your money down the polygraph rat hole.

Let's assume you take the polygraph and pass. How long do you think it will take for your partner to Google "polygraph" and discover that the polygraph can be fooled using simple countermeasures that polygraph operators cannot detect?

You (and your partner) will find those countermeasures explained in Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 11:48am
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George W. Maschke wrote on Apr 28th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
Don Cargill is a charlatan, as are all polygraph operators


Back to the name calling, again.  I have made a living offering my unbiased professional opinion, based on the best available technogoly and technique, to people who decide they needed it and were willing to pay for it.  Please explain how that makes me a charlatan.
  

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Reply #5 - Apr 30th, 2013 at 1:58pm
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A charlatan is "a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud" (New Oxford American Dictionary).

Polygraph operators falsely claim that they can detect lies (or deception, there's really no meaningful difference). Polygraphy has no grounding in the scientific method, which is not surprising, considering that it was devised by interrogators (Leonarde Keeler, John Reid, and Cleve Backster), not scientists. You cannot detect lies or deception. What you do for a living is a fraud.
  

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