Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 [3] 4  Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants (Read 148346 times)
Twoblock
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 732
Location: AR.
Joined: Oct 15th, 2002
Gender: Male
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #30 - Oct 6th, 2013 at 6:02pm
Print Post  
Doug,

You are correct. I spend at least 8 hours a day fighting Washington. So much so that my emails have been blocked. Not by just Democrats either. One of my own Senators, John Cornyn, the RNSC and the RNC blocked me.  People like Cruz and Paul have NOT blocked me.

Years ago, by hard copy letters, I tried to get someone in Congress (both houses) to introduce a bill that required members to pass a polygraph in order to inter Congress and for the incumbents to remain there. I didn't get ONE response to the letters. I can understand that because they only pay attention to large numbers. I could not get enough people writing. There's the problem. The only way I get my messages across now are through petitions and they do read some of them evidenced by recent replies even though the responses were pure political rhetoric and lies.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Joshjosh
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #31 - Jun 12th, 2014 at 11:18pm
Print Post  
I just passed my polygraph last monday 06/09/14. I thought it was pretty easy. Yes at first i was a little nervous because i didnt know what to expect. After a few question i got my confidence and was more relax. To pass a polygraph just be honest and relax when your answering the questions. Do not worry about what the examiner says that you are not passing. Just say the truth and try the best to be relaxed. Good luck to you all. I am just waiting for my PFT2 and drug test which should be 30-60 days before EOD.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
forgetthebollocks
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 10
Joined: Mar 6th, 2015
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #32 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:22pm
Print Post  
Quote:
I just passed my polygraph last monday 06/09/14. I thought it was pretty easy. Yes at first i was a little nervous because i didnt know what to expect. After a few question i got my confidence and was more relax. To pass a polygraph just be honest and relax when your answering the questions. Do not worry about what the examiner says that you are not passing. Just say the truth and try the best to be relaxed. Good luck to you all. I am just waiting for my PFT2 and drug test which should be 30-60 days before EOD.



Ok, so what's your rap sheet consist of? Be honest now. No one here can be wearing a halo. The thing that seems to be going on with the hiring process is....if you have no experience in life what so ever and have lived life, basically under  a rock, then that makes you a potential candidate/? I would think that those who are well seasoned in life's ups and downs, having experiences with the good and bad and learning from them and being able to differentiate good ethics from bad, would be more desirable by departments. When I failed and I responded back to this "IA" investigator, I asked if they were looking for robots? I asked who is to say that anyone applicant that "supposedly" has never been tainted by mistakes, will not decide later, after being hired and well established in the job, that he or she will not decide to push the envelope to see what they can get a way with.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
youname
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #33 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 2:33am
Print Post  
Quote:
so im applying for a border patrol position ive passed everything the still looking at my background check i believe i admitted to have used drugs in when i was young given that i would probably be asked that on the polygraph test so when i get and answer yes to that question i will let you guys know if it was better ti actually done drugs in the past and admit to it than not have and failed it.... we this said i no longer use drugs it was just a experimental part of my life


So , did you get the job..? How was your experience with the polygraph test ?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Wandersmann
Very Senior User
****
Offline



Posts: 226
Joined: Jun 2nd, 2015
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #34 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 5:45pm
Print Post  
forgetthebollocks wrote on Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:22pm:
To pass a polygraph just be honest and relax


I told a polygraph examiner that I was trying to relax and he stated in his report that I admitted to using countermeasures.  What a joke this polygraph is.  A joke that costs innocent people their careers.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Evan S
Senior User
***
Offline



Posts: 63
Joined: Dec 22nd, 2007
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #35 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:31pm
Print Post  
Wandersmann...were you asked to fill out a written statement and sign it?  Perhaps the polygrapher, under pressure to fail 60% of the applicants, exaggerated your minor confession (trying to relax) into a significant admission.  You must not sign if you do not agree.  You are under no obligation to appease the polygrapher.

Evan S
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Wandersmann
Very Senior User
****
Offline



Posts: 226
Joined: Jun 2nd, 2015
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #36 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:50pm
Print Post  
Evan S wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 7:31pm:
Wandersmann...were you asked to fill out a written statement and sign it?  Perhaps the polygrapher, under pressure to fail 60% of the applicants, exaggerated your minor confession (trying to relax) into a significant admission.  You must not sign if you do not agree.  You are under no obligation to appease the polygrapher.



Good point !  No, I never signed, wrote, or dictated anything after the test.  I was a government contractor.  I strenuously maintained my innocence and was told if I didn't confess, I would be terminated.  I never did confess and was eventually terminated 5 months later after I accomplished my tasks.  They let me finish but then said I could never come back on another contract.  If I was a threat to security, weren't they culpable to allow me to stay ?  Their adjudication is capricious.  They can do whatever they want.  As I was walked out of the office, I continued to protest my innocence  and the polygraph examiner told me not to worry, no adverse action would be taken against me.  He said something to the effect of, "don't worry, you don't need to pass the polygraph to stay on your contract".  He lied.  I find it ironic that these "truth finders" are the biggest God damned liars that ever walked the face of the earth.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 614
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #37 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 1:04am
Print Post  
Wandersmann wrote on Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:50pm:
I find it ironic that these "truth finders" are the biggest God damned liars that ever walked the face of the earth.


To a large extent, I agree. That is precisely why a key plank in my platform for president-elect of the American Polygraph Association is a bill of rights for potential examinees that would duly inform them of the risks, realities and limitations of the "test" well in advance of their scheduled date with the liebox and its operator.
  

Daniel Mangan, M.A.
Full Member, American Polygraph Association
Certified PCSOT Examiner

Website: www.polygraphman.com
Email: polygraphexam@gmail.com
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
anomymous
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #38 - Mar 15th, 2016 at 12:41am
Print Post  
I'd like to know why the hell why the waiting period to retake the CBP test is so long.   >:(
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paying attention American
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #39 - Apr 10th, 2016 at 10:11pm
Print Post  
It's very simple
The group that PAYS for the polygraph
gets the results that they want
especially if the result that the payer wants
is a FAILED examination
It's that simple
These exams are purely subjective !!!
The " science " is in the lie pushed by the exam giver !!!
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Ruckkus
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #40 - Apr 26th, 2016 at 10:23pm
Print Post  
If I failed and reapplied 3 years later what are the odds of me getting hired?  If I pass the poly would my last failed exam hurt my chances?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Lookatyourself
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #41 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 12:49am
Print Post  
You got educated and stayed good for the system, cool guy. But you lack the common sense to figure out that every single one of you has taken some type of drug in your life, because the biggest drug pusher on the planet is the Pharmaceutical Cartel... and they start you out real young injecting that needle full of vaccines.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
R Perez
Guest


Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #42 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 3:28am
Print Post  
Well the best thing to do is tell the Agent you did drugs and he will see you are lying and he cant fail you than:)  Grin Grin
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
xenonman
God Member
Banned
*****
Offline


May sarin, ricin, and
variola major befall
Langley

Posts: 680
Location: WI   USA
Joined: Dec 14th, 2009
Gender: Male
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #43 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:32pm
Print Post  
quickfix wrote on Dec 7th, 2011 at 7:45pm:
How articulate you are.  Judging by your command of the English language, you have no business being in a profession that requires intelligence.  Go back to school and get an education.


You seem to have done all right for yourself, Quickfix, and yet you don't appear to be capable of accomplishing very much except to threaten and disparage those who have the temerity to question the accuracy of your brilliant analyses. Tongue
  

What do we call it when every employee of the Agency's Office of Security
and Office of Personnel drowns in the Potomac?   A great beginning!

The best intelligence community employee is a compromised IC employee!
Back to top
YouTube  
IP Logged
 
xenonman
God Member
Banned
*****
Offline


May sarin, ricin, and
variola major befall
Langley

Posts: 680
Location: WI   USA
Joined: Dec 14th, 2009
Gender: Male
Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Reply #44 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:35pm
Print Post  
Quote:
If I failed and reapplied 3 years later what are the odds of me getting hired?  If I pass the poly would my last failed exam hurt my chances?


For CBP, I really don't know.  For any federal intelligence agency, I'd say to forget about re-applying until you turn 120.  lol  Grin
  

What do we call it when every employee of the Agency's Office of Security
and Office of Personnel drowns in the Potomac?   A great beginning!

The best intelligence community employee is a compromised IC employee!
Back to top
YouTube  
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 
Send TopicPrint
Bookmarks: del.icio.us Digg Facebook Google Google+ Linked in reddit StumbleUpon Twitter Yahoo