polygraph exam?

The polygraph is not an "exam".  So if you're trying to conjure up the vision of little Johnny cheating on a math test, it doesn't apply.   

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But if these chart tracings of mere bodily functions are used by the chart operator to deceive, trick or manipulate an person who is telling the truth into falsely believing he/she is actually lying, than it's not really cheating.  Turnaround is fair play.

Problem is, you guys have been doing this so long you're livng is a world of make believe.

TC

P.S.  Still think Dr. Zimbardo is a proponent of the polygraph?  Got anymore bogus research to misapply?

SanchoPanza wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2008 at 8:51pm:


Sancho,

TC is right. you are using the term "exam" to mean "as in cheating on a exam" which is not the case at all.
When one takes an "exam" and gives the correct answers that individual WILL pass the exam. Not always so with polygraphy as you well know.

The definition of exam doesn't actually apply to polygraph as stated in your post.
 
1) Polygraph does not examine something closely. It only attempts to induce a confession using the subjects ignorance of polygraph and it's validity.

2) It is not a set of questions or exercises evaluating skill or knowledge. Since polygraph does not detect lies as the general public has been lead to believe it does not evaluate anything other than a response to a question. 

3) it is not a formal systematic since systematic is defined as: done or acting according to a fixed plan or system we know that polygraph is far from a fixed plan or system since it seeks only to solicit information from the subject and cannot by itself be counted on for the truth.

4) IT CERTAINLY does not inspect anyones conscience in detail or any other way. It simply has no power to do that in any provable way.

5)The act of giving students or candidates a test (as by questions) to determine what they know or have learned. 
Again, polygraph by it self cannot determine what anyone knows or has learned. Only answers to the subsequent interrogation can and sometimes thats false too.

So Sancho, what definition of "exam" do you think applies to polygraph in the content of your little Poll?

Getting back to the original topic.

Call it whatever you want to call it, it is a ruse, it is a con game.  If a person has to resort to conning a conman, to prevent himself from being falsely branded a liar, then cheat baby cheat.

Now cheating on a bar exam, CPA examination...etc., that really is dishonest.

I believe in delving into the true meaning of things, and not being superficial to support a losing battle.  Criminals often parse and nitpick words to rationalize their guilt or otherwise obfuscate matters.  Just like you are doing.

TC