Normal Topic Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test (Read 8510 times)
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box sailor6535
New User
*
Offline



Posts: 2
Joined: Sep 10th, 2002
Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Oct 30th, 2008 at 7:20am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Everyone talks about "beating the test" but what about law enforcement that goes fishing?  Is there a way for a polygrapher to manipulate the test to show deceptive to use it to get a confession?

Also on the LX3000, how often does it need to be calibrated, and is the functionality still 6 months?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box George W. Maschke
Global Moderator
*****
Offline


Make-believe science yields
make-believe security.

Posts: 6217
Joined: Sep 29th, 2000
Re: Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2008 at 7:31am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
In the words of Dr. James Blascovitch, one of the members of the National Research Council's Committee to Review the Scientific Evidence on the polygraph, "...every examiner I asked at DoDPI, 'If you wanted someone to fail this test, could you have them do it, physiologically?' they said 'yes.'"
  

George W. Maschke
I am generally available in the chat room from 3 AM to 3 PM Eastern time.
Tel/SMS: 1-202-810-2105 (Please use Signal Private Messenger or WhatsApp to text or call.)
E-mail/iMessage/FaceTime: antipolygraph.org@protonmail.com
Wire: @ap_org
Threema: A4PYDD5S
Personal Statement: "Too Hot of a Potato"
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Sergeant1107
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 730
Location: Connecticut, USA
Joined: May 21st, 2005
Gender: Male
Re: Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2008 at 10:27am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
There have also been instances where different examiners studied the same charts and gave different opiniongs regarding truth or deception.

With that in mind it seems likely an examiner wouldn't have to do very much of anything other than give a "deception indicated" score at the end of the test.
  

Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Administrator
Administrator
*****
Offline



Posts: 343
Joined: Sep 28th, 2000
Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Reply #3 - Oct 30th, 2008 at 11:38am
Print Post  
This Topic was moved here from The Lie Behind the Lie Detector [move by] Administrator.
  

AntiPolygraph.org Administrator
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box SanchoPanza
Especially Senior User
*****
Offline



Posts: 343
Joined: Dec 8th, 2007
Re: Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Reply #4 - Oct 30th, 2008 at 5:06pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Sounds to me like you are trying to project your lack of morals and your desire to cheat on a polygraph test onto polygraphers.

Sancho Panza
  

Quand vous citez des langues que vous ne parlez pas afin de sembler intellegent, vous vous avérez seulement que votre tête est gonflée mais videz.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box notguilty1
Especially Senior User
*****
Offline



Posts: 300
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2008
Re: Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test
Reply #5 - Oct 30th, 2008 at 10:17pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
SanchoPanza wrote on Oct 30th, 2008 at 5:06pm:
Sounds to me like you are trying to project your lack of morals and your desire to cheat on a polygraph test onto polygraphers.

Sancho Panza



Since Polygraphy is a interrogation tool geared to benefit the Polygraph operator with his interrogation. 
The results can be influenced by the Polygraph operator and they do it repeatedly.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Can the polygraph tech manipulate the test

Please type the characters that appear in the image. The characters must be typed in the same order, and they are case-sensitive.
Open Preview Preview

You can resize the textbox by dragging the right or bottom border.
Insert Hyperlink Insert FTP Link Insert Image Insert E-mail Insert Media Insert Table Insert Table Row Insert Table Column Insert Horizontal Rule Insert Teletype Insert Code Insert Quote Edited Superscript Subscript Insert List /me - my name Insert Marquee Insert Timestamp No Parse
Bold Italicized Underline Insert Strikethrough Highlight
                       
Change Text Color
Insert Preformatted Text Left Align Centered Right Align
resize_wb
resize_hb







Max 200000 characters. Remaining characters:
Text size: pt
More Smilies
View All Smilies
Collapse additional features Collapse/Expand additional features Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips Sealed Undecided Kiss Cry
Attachments More Attachments Allowed file types: txt doc docx ics psd pdf bmp jpe jpg jpeg gif png swf zip rar tar gz 7z odt ods mp3 mp4 wav avi mov 3gp html maff pgp gpg
Maximum Attachment size: 500000 KB
Attachment 1:
X