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lee New User Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 27^th, 2008	What would happen if you lired through the entire test Jul 27^th, 2008 at 4:29pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I was wondering wouldnt the test be inconclusive if you lied throughout the entire test. Any answers would be apprciated.


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Lethe Very Senior User Offline Posts: 233 Joined: Apr 15^th, 2007	Re: What would happen if you lired through the entire test Reply #1 - Jul 27^th, 2008 at 8:57pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	No, they would have a decent chance of determining if you'd lied on the relevant questions. However, if you told the truth on the control questions then the test couldn't be conducted. Just play dumb when they keep trying to get you to lie on the control questions. Then just make fun of them because it's so easy to tell the controls from the relevants. "Oh, this one is a relevant question, I will answer truthfully" or "Another control question, don't worry, I'll lie!" Seriously, they think they're able to fool people, but an informed person can easily distinguish the controls and relevants. It's not hard; it's sort of like distinguishing between birds and fish. Oh, wait, I forgot: they have magic control questions now! No one can tell those from the relevant questions! Of course, ah... they can't give us any examples of these magic control questions--but not because that would compromise them! Nothing could do that! I always get a kick out of polygraphers who say stuff like "Yeah, but I use magic control questions! Not even you could figure them out, heh heh heh!"

	Is former APA President Skip Webb evil or just stupid? Is former APA President Ed Gelb an idiot or does the polygraph just not work? Did you know that polygrapher Sackett doesn't care about detecting deception to relevant questions?
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polytechnic New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: May 23^rd, 2008	Re: What would happen if you lired through the entire test Reply #2 - Jul 28^th, 2008 at 3:00pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	lee wrote on Jul 27^th, 2008 at 4:29pm: I was wondering wouldnt the test be inconclusive if you lied throughout the entire test. Any answers would be apprciated. Generally, the assumption by the examiner is that you're lying to all the questions (besides the neutrals). The probability is that you're at least lying to the CQ's. The examiner wants to check whether your lie response to the CQ is stronger than your response to the RQ - and if so, then the presumption is that you're Truthful (NDI) and Innocent. The converse assumption is that if your RQ responses are stronger, that you were Untruthful (DI) and guilty. If you want to mess with their heads, admit to no 'earlier in life' sins during a pre-employment test - because they will only use your admissions against you. If you have the need to lie during an Issue Test (ie you are a suspect in a crime) then you will naturally be lying to the RQ's and if you are caught out - well so be it. However, there are far too many times when Innocent (Truthful) examinees are declared to be DI (False Positives) and suffer the ignominy that follows. If you are guilty, you dont need a polygraph examiner to catch you out - most sharp investigators can do that based upon their intuition - honed to perfection over the years. So, if you're guilty and you lie - you're gonna fry anyway. Good Luck


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