chrismcphee33 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2007 at 1:03pm:


Chris,

I can't tell you from a poly operators stand point but I can tell you from one who has taken several of these tests that the first sexual question you are refering to can be either/or control or relavent. I mean that in most states any sexual position other then the missionary is considered illegal. Which most if not all people are guilty of this crime.. If the PO rewords the question, which most of the time they do,  then its a good chance it may be a control. The other questions you are referring to are safe to say that they are relavent. 

If you have never taken a poly I would recomend reading and fully understanding how it "works" before taken one. This site has a lot of useful information. 

I must also say that without knowing the full extent of you past activities I cannot be sure whether they may exclude you from a law enforcement career. I myself am a law enforcement officer and have a general idea of what departments look for in a candidant and what they may allow.  The main thing they look for is honesty. 

reguards,

rice

chrismcphee33 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2007 at 1:03pm:


Sir,
Might you pose to the examiner, "Do you believe in The Holy Bible?"
und "Do you say that Adam committed sin by being naked?"

Even in Revelations, when the believers leave the earthly realm, they went (will go) naked. 

To be naked is natural. Not sinful. The sin is in the eye of he who believes nakedness to be shameful or sinful.

Tell them your truth. They must take it for what it is.

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I'm going to need you to cite me the chapter and verse as I must have missed that one.  Maybe we can start a new post.

Exposing oneself, as stated above, is (generally) a crime (as well as a sin).

Barry_C wrote on Dec 14^th, 2007 at 1:03am:


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Sir,
I will do so when I find the inclination. 
To walk naked in the desert, would that be a crime ?
To falsely accuse a persons truth as a lie, would that be a sin, or a crime?

Respectfully,
JP

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Sir, when you urinate in a public toilet, do you not expose your genitalia. Yes you do. But it is not unlawful to do so even though many persons in your vicinity can view your ** if they want to do so.

Now, if one is in a remote (but public place ) area and one decides to be au naturel, why should that be more or less illegal than exposing in a public toilet. 

Nevermind the propositions and middle ground etc. The law is often an ass.

Dont extrapolate the naked poster's words to the nth degree. He never said or suggested that he exposes himself in busy public places. My understanding is that he is a naturist of sorts.

Try it for a time. The sun on your booty is a wholesome feeling.

Respectfully,
JP

Chris you stated in your original post 

you stated in your original post
chrismcphee33 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2007 at 1:03pm:


Exhibitionism is a mental disorder characterized by a compulsion to display one's genitals to an unsuspecting stranger.

Voyeurism is a psychosexual disorder in which a person derives sexual pleasure and gratification from looking at the naked bodies and genital organs or observing the sexual acts of others
Both of these are also criminal sexual activity in most jurisdictions.

Pardon me and anyone else who took you at your word when you said you were both of these, but it seems you are just trying to minimize your  behavior in some feeble attempt to avoid admitting that you engaged in criminal deviant behavior to you polygrapher. 

If you exposed yourself and recieved some emotional or physical gratification from the possibility or probability of some unsuspecting stranger might catch you, you have engaged in criminal exhibitionism whether or not you were caught. 

But you go right ahead and lie if you think you can get away with it, but be honest with us when the polygrapher catches you and you lose a job opportunity over what might be a minor issue if simply explained before your test. Be sure and come back here and tell everyone that the truth behind the lie behind the lie detector is that the methods don't work and how by following their advice you were cheated out of a career. 

Be fully prepared however for Mr. Mashke or some loyal minion to just say you didn't follow his instructions well enough. 

One other thing you need to think about. No one can change their past however much they would like to. 
All you can do right now is decided whether or not you are going to LIE about your mistakes. If you are completely truthful you will probably make it. If you chose to be a LIAR or attempt counter measures you probably won't make it. But even if you do, every good deed you perform from that day forward will be tainted by the fraud you chose to commit. 

If you plan on working for a law enforcement agency they are entitled to inquire into your character, your suitability, your honesty and your integrity. Lying to questions about your past behavior reflects negatively on all those issues and makes you appear untrustworthy. Why would another officer trust you when lives are at stake when you cannot be trusted regarding past indiscretions?

Sancho Panza

What you posted was” Having sex in a semi-public place with a girlfriend and outdoor private nudity makes me a sexual deviant? I would love to be a fly on your wall." That is not a declaration of your behavior that is just a "What if?" question. 

And if that is to be your declaration and while engaged with sex in a semi-public place with your girlfriend OR outdoor private nudity and received some emotional or physical gratification from the possibility or probability of some unsuspecting stranger might catch you, you have engaged in criminal exhibitionism whether or not you were caught. The portion in bold establishes the Mens rea of the criminal act. 

You stated that YOU thought your behavior was weird. 

By the way, one of the reasons that dictionaries exist is to allow people from different points of view to achieve consensus regarding the meanings of words. While you are certainly entitled to change which words you decide to use, I don't think that anyone will agree that you are allowed to change their definitions after you have used the words. 

You have yet to say that you are not an exhibitionist or a voyeur under the definitions provided. 

If you haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to fear from the truth, but you don't get to change the definition of truth to accommodate your behavior.

Employers have no right to delve into legal sexual behavior any further than necessary to determine if it is indeed legal sexual behavior. 

Playing games with the polygrapher for a police position could very well lead to a very rewarding Mc Job  some day.  As you get ready to lie to the polygrapher or attempt counter measures remember to repeat to yourself 
"Would you like fries or a thick chocolaty shake with that sir?