does holding your breathe during control questions help as a counter measure?

i mean holding my breath during the control questions and then start breathing again normally after i answer?  cuz i dont fully understand the control breathing.  i might be too nervous and start breathing erractically

for a job but the thing is i used to do alot of illegal stuff when i was younger i never got caught.  now that i am older and i regret the stuff i did as a youth it will effect me getting the  job.

bro think about this. be honest about the stuff you did younger. if you lie, and are luckily enough to pass, and they find info about you during a BI your screwed... Ya gotta step up and be honest. how do you expect to be in a position of trust if you lie to get to that position... if you don't meet the requirements. look for a different profession...

nomegusto wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2007 at 11:18pm:


nomegusto,

You are dead wrong about breath-holding (after exhalation) not being a polygraph countermeasure. Referred to as "suppression" in the polygraph literature, it is perhaps the single most common scorable breathing reaction. Of course, to be effective as a countermeasure, it must be done timely with the control questions. See Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector for more on this and other polygraph countermeasures.

beezy,

Although ready countermeasures to the polygraph are available, the polygraph community has no demonstrated ability to detect them, and truthful examinees might wisely choose to employ countermeasures to protect against the serious risk of a false positive outcome, applicants for positions of public trust have an ethical obligation to answer relevant questions truthfully.

Sergeant1107 wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 8:10am:



Next time I am required to give a urine sample for analysis----you know, the sort of test that rarely but on occasion does give false readings if a person likes poppy seed bagels (yummy), I will hold my bladder---because under Sarge's reasoning, it is nobody's business what I do with my urinary track.  

p.s. Whether you are holding back urine or breath, it is "purposeful non-compliance" and the report will be labeled as such. Such a label taints people with a stink that stays around for a while.

Happy Monday everyone. Hope we all had a great weekend. I wish I could figure out how to use the cute little quotes. LOL...

Here we go....
George 
Beezy's original question was does holding your breath DURING a control question help as a counter measure? I stated the obvious. Thats it, and hope he takes the advice of chilling out before the test, and he'll pass. 

Sarge:
Good seeing you again. If the subject is controling his breath consciously, and caught with no decent explanation why, then yeah I believe such person is purposly trying to alter the results of the test. However there is an exception. For example: You have members who've done swat, or special missions. In their training, there conditioned to use tactical breathing (combat breathing) when there in a stressful enviorement. The key word is that their conditioned for it. It's now subconcious. If they can explain the validy of what there doing, documentation etc etc. I don't think it'll count against them. I know, because this has happened to me. It was brought to my attention I was changing or trying to manipulate my breathing. I explained my actions, and we continued on with the tests...


Again, forget about the pros/cons of CM's. Because again the tester (especially if he/she is leo) will be looking for those danged NVI's. You can beat a machine, I'll agree to that. But you can't beat your subconcious... I think were foolish if anyone believes the only thing a polygrapher is looking at is a chart. I guarantee there looking at the examinee at the same time... 

EJohnson wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2007 at 3:27pm:

That's a very poor analogy.  If I agree to submit to a urine test I would have to give a urine sample.  If the person doing the testing also specified how I was to breathe and what I was to think about while I was urinating, I would have serious doubts about the validity of the test.  As would any reasonable person.  As long as I give the urine sample I am fulfilling my part of the test.  What I think about while I'm doing it is irrelevant.

If I agree to submit to a polygraph exam it is incumbent upon me to tell the truth, as it would be to any ethical person.  If I choose to recite poetry in my head or do long division in my head after each truthful answer, how is that behaving unethically?

I already know from experience that simply telling the truth is no guarantee of passing the polygraph.  If the test was accurate, it could determine truth or deception.   

Labeling me as "purposefully noncompliant" for what I am thinking?  That sure sounds like a guess to me.  Unless polygraph examiners have developed the ability to read minds.  And, if they did, they'd be able to determine that I was telling the truth, regardless of what I was thinking after the question...