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Nov 7th, 2007 at 2:06am
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A few weeks ago I began to ungergo a "background check" by a police department I was hoping to become employed with.  I was applying for a civilian position yet was still required to jump through all the hoops.  I was first required to pass an employment screening test.  After that I was selected for an actual "job interview."  My interviewers really liked me and decided that they would continue with the employment process and have me undergo a background check.  I didn't get very far in the background check because I failed every single relevant question on the voice stress test.  They didn't tell me this was the reason they wouldn't hire me but I knew this was why because they hadn't gathered any other information on my background.  None of my employers or other references were called.  I have been a model citizen and employee and if they continued their background check they would have found that out.  I've never even had a speeding ticket.  Anyway, as far as the test results of the "lie detector" I can tell you that I was not lying on any of the questions they asked me!!!!!  After the test was administered I was told by the cop that I showed very strong deception on every question.  I was adamant that I was not lying (and I wasn't!!) so he administered the test two more times with the same results.  Until I talked to the PD again to find out the bad news, I thought for sure they only used this device as a way to scare confessions out of people.  Well, apparently they actually believe the results!!!

After this ordeal I have decided that I will not continue a career in the criminal justice setting.  If a company is going to base the quality of their candidate on a crackpot test then I'm not interested in working for them.  I'm sure there are countless cool-as-a- cucumber deceptive people that passed the test with flying colors and are now employed with the PD.  What concerns me is that if so much weight is placed on this test, then key facts that are actually in a person's background will be missed.  C'est la vie.  Because of blind and ignorant faith the PD has just passed up a loyal and trustworthy person.
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 2:36am
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It would appear you are "collateral damage" which as some polygraphers believe, is okay because occasionally they catch someone confessing to doing stuff that would disqualify them from working at the PD. 

Deceptive on every relevant question.  You must be some BAD HOMBRE  Angry.

Best of luck to you in the future.
  

"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams."  (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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Reply #2 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 3:10am
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Welp, I'm actually a girl.  Tongue

Thanks for wishing me luck.  I've decided to apply to law school.  I figure I have a better chance at that then continuing to play the game of chance with law enforcement agencies..
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 3:33am
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amethyst wrote on Nov 7th, 2007 at 3:10am:
Welp, I'm actually a girl.  Tongue


Okay then, one BAD MUJER!  Wink
  

"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams."  (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)
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Reply #4 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 3:52am
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Amethyst

You should make it a point of telling the Chief that the CEO of the company that makes the CVSA has stated, in court I believe, the machine has no ability to distinguish between truth or lie. Then write a letter to the editor of the local paper with the information.

Good luck in becoming a lawyer.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 4:43am
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TwoBlock,

Thanks for the suggestion.  I may act on this.  If people continue to be complacent on this subject matter nothing will ever change.  This website has been a great resource and I'm glad to have had the opportunity to educate myself on this subject.  If the illegitimacy of these tests were more widely known to the public I might have the job I want right now.

To tell you the truth, before I went through this ordeal I actually thought lie detectors were accurate.  So many times I've seen them used on talk shows like Dr. Phil to determine if one is lying about child molestation or cheating.  People naturally assume these tests are accurate because of their wide spread use.  Unless you are faced with such a test most people remain uninformed of how bogus these tests really are.  I know I did and I consider myself educated and informed...

If you have any other suggestions or any links that would substantiate my situation let me know!

Cheers.

  
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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2007 at 9:03pm
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I'm sorry this happened to you. I too believed in the polygraph. Then I took one. 

Trust me, I will never EVER submit to one of these again. I am actually a person who can probably never pass such a test because I get so nervous in situations like this. I also over-think my answers so I'm sure I look deceptive.

The truth is, I just want to be honest. Unfortunately, you're not allowed to say "I don't know" so I feel like I was forced to lie. (When I don't know is the correct response.)Nov 24th, 2007 at 9:02pm
  
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