I was under investigation earlier this year for a crime I did not commit.  My attorney had me take a polygraph test with a private individual who is very well respected in the field.  He was the head of a large police departments polygraph dept and trains many people throughout the country.  He now has his own private practice. My attorney sends his clients there before he sends them to the sherrifs dept for the real one.  If his clients fail the private one he doesn't send them to the real one.  Anyway, I passed the private one.  My attorney has never had someone pass the private one and fail the sherriff.  In fact the private polygrapher trained the current county sherriff polygrapher.  So when i took the polygraph test with the sherriff my attorney did not have me take the post test.  He never has his clients do this and said it is common.  The county polygrapher said this was unusual and said the prosecution really wanted me to take the post test.  He told me I could walk out after the actual testing was done but he wouldn't sign anything that pre-approved me not taking the post test.  So that is what i did.  I took the test and when that part was done I said "Is this when I should leave?" and he said "yes."  He told me he would be out in a minute to tell my attny and myself the results.  He came out about 45 mins later and said "I know the results of your private test and these were a little different.  There were indicators that showed signs of deception.  I'd really like to get you back in for the post test."  To which my attorney said, no way and asked for specifics.  "Well there were just some indicators that showed deception."  And he would not give specifics.  He then told us he would have the results to us the next day or the day after.  that was in April and we have not been shown the results and have not been able to get a hold of them.  It was understood that if I pass that polygraph the criminal charges that had not been brought forth yet would be dropped.  If I failed they were going to go after me with 1st degree in my case.  About three weeks after the test I was offered a plea for 4th degree, which is a misdimeanor.  We actually had a third party, "impartial party" hired by a judge to investigate some of the background of my whole case and they have access to all documents.  They have a legal right to everything under the sun.  The third party tried through the prosecution and the sherriffs department to get the results and could not get them.  She told us she has never had this problem before.  The prosecution throughout the discussions would say that I failed the polygraph test, but when we asked for results they would not give them to us.   

What are my rights to seeing my results of that test?  I mean all the detail.  This has been one small piece of the nightmare my family and myself have been going through and would really like to get the raw data from that test.  Does anyone know where I would start?   

Thanks a lot.   

Anyone having criminal problems always state their crime unless it is a sex offense.   So mattwings, did you try  countermeasures on the second test?

George, I asked a legitimate question.  Mattwings, did you use countermeasures on your second test.

BTW, this is relevant.  If he used countermeasures, that could have been the problem and others here should know about it.

Wonder_Woman wrote on Sep 30^th, 2007 at 7:11pm:


You asked mattwings a question the answer to which is really none of your or anyone else's business, and which is of no relevance to his/her posted question.

George, unlike you I know people get investigated for crimes...hello, it is an investigation and if he has an attorney he has criminal problems, regardless if his is guilty or innocent.  You my man are trying to deflect the true question of if he used countermeasures on the second exam.  I don't care if he wants the records.   

The point is you tell everyone to use CM's .....ta da, I'm off to save the world.    When in fact, CM'S don't work in the manner you think.   

I for one would like to know if he used CM's on the second test!

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George, are you that conscienceless???

Don't take the polygraph, but he're a free book on how to pass (or beat - if you are guilty of some crime or abuse).

You cannot delete your culpability anymore than the folks who provided firearms to Kleibold and Harris. But hey, they didn't tell those kids to go shoot up a school, any more than you advise people to sabotage their polygraph, and trash their career opportunities (or attempt to defeat the efforts of a criminal investigation).

As always,

Just damn proud to be here.

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Wonder_Woman wrote on Sep 30^th, 2007 at 8:13pm:


Indeed, your question is out there, and mattwings may or may not choose to answer it. But for now, and back to the original topic of this discussion thread, can you (or any other polygrapher here) offer a good faith reason for not releasing the polygraph records so that they may be independently reviewed?

I would allow another polygraph examiner to independantly review my records.  However, depending on who ran the examination, their agency may have requirements that prohit releasing investigative information.  I would also like to restate for this population, the POLYGRAPH will not convict this man of a crime.  The investigators will take this information and investigate further.

George, I also agree with Ludovico.  Even if you didn't personally tell someone to use CM's you are culpable if they receive this information from your site.