Fortunately I'm an engineer and don't willingly associate with creeps.  You can keep them Sir.  Just thought I'd mention a few things.  You seem to have all that covered though.  I'm glad you're on the case.

Please try not to be so offensive.  Your job must be very difficult.  I hope they are not rubbing off on you.   

Lloyd Ploense

Greetings PaleRider:

Respectfully Sir, I beg to agree and disagree at the same time.

Long ago during very dark days of my life there was a “prop con” artist named Clarence McCormick.  Clarence misapplied common psychological test procedures to convince parents their children needed to attend his unlicensed school/clinic.  When a Judge in IL terminated his public operations he reopened covertly in the basement of his home.  Clarence had this thing about suffocating and strangling innocent young children.  I’ve witnessed him beat children suffering from autism and Down’s syndrome into bloody pulps.  That basement on Forest Avenue in River Forest, IL, probably still reeks with the stench of the urine, feces and vomit voided by terrified children.  Clarence was well paid by deluded parents to ‘play school’ and thoroughly enjoyed his work.  Perhaps he experienced some sort of sexual thrill from this.

Another very convincing “prop con” artist from IL was "Pogo the Clown."  Pogo wore a very proper visage and was even photographed with future-First Lady Rosalynn Carter.  Later we came to know Pogo as John Wayne Gacy.

PaleRider, you are correct pal.  You’re preaching to the choir.  There are some very sick people out there that must be identified, caught and stopped.  The inevitable question now is:
Once we have accomplished this, why do we release them?

Personally, I’d like to see all the verified sex offenders gathered on a large ship and sent to the Bikini Atoll.  Once there, they might be assigned a Geiger counter and a pair of tweezers to remove radioactive contaminated particles mote by mote…

That will never occur while “treatment” options are available.  Our mental health professionals needs collect their fine salary as they “rehabilitate” these mentally ill criminals and return them to our neighborhoods.  I see your difficulty PaleRider.

Still though Sir, I am opposed to polygraph testing.  I personally know for a fact that the false positive percentage for detection of deception technologies is unacceptably high.  There is an uninvestigated positive interference when a good and honest citizen is falsely accused of heinous crimes against those he or she loves.  This is particularly acute when the falsely accused human is actually the victim who reported the crime in the first place.

I agree Sir that you must use all legal methods to identify and constrain sex offenders.  These include an array of interrogation techniques that may be tailored to a person’s belief systems:
1)      If a person believes in god, you may claim god revealed in a vision to you exactly what he or she did;
2)      If a person believes in the horoscope, you may tell him/her that their offensive behavior was forecast in the Sunday paper;
3)      If a person believes in spirits, you may claim that a medium has communicated their guilt;
4)      Etc…

Polygraph testing though presents quite a conundrum PaleRider.  It is a two edged sword that is very inaccurate on the backstroke.  Innocent people can be easily decapitated.  For this reason I can never conscience polygraph testing.  That I consider similar to the use of bis 2-chloroethyl sulfide as a weapon of war.  Mustard gas presents too much collateral damage and poisons the land for a long time.  All civilized nations have outlawed chemical weapons for this reason among others.

While polygraph examinations remain legal in the US, I beg you Sir to check your backstroke conscientiously.

Sincerely,
Lloyd Levander Ploense
PS: Long ago a woman I dated spoke an old adage to me: “If wishes were horses all beggars would ride.”  Ride on PaleRider but I beg of you again, check your backstroke!

Well Stan,

I have not been charged with a crime because I did not commit one.  I was the victim of a crime.  Despite that, during a polygraph interrogation I was accused of commiting the crime I am the victim of.  How bizzare!  That is why I'm upset.

Considering what I wrote on another thread, I think polygraph operators do not care if innocent people are harmed with false accusations that produce false positives.  'Hey Man, you hold the nail while I swing the hammer!'

When a false positive occurs in polygraphy, is the only consequence to an innocent person false imprisonment?  Can you show evidence of that?  Can you show it with the family consequenses inherent to this threads subjects?

Lloyd Ploense

[quote author=Lloyd Ploense link=1185490801/30#35 date=1187297757]Well Stan,

I have not been charged with a crime because I did not commit one.  I was the victim of a crime.  Despite that, during a polygraph interrogation I was accused of commiting the crime I am the victim of.  How bizzare!  That is why I'm upset.

So Lloyd, are you are you not being accused of a crime?  Double speak does not help your case.

lloyd,

If you are truly innocent of what they are accusing you of, then there is no way they can convict you of it using ONLY a polygraph.  I don't know how many different ways I can say this.

If you are truly innocent of this, I would assume your family would obviously believe that you are, and it should be nothing more than a nusciance.  As I said before, methinks you doth protest too much.  If LE has no other evidence to back up their claims that you poisoned your own wedding cake (even typing that seems ludicrous), then it will be dropped, period.  If you are innocent as you claim, don't worry about it, let it run it's course, let the police make their false accusations and when their investigations come up with nothing, move on and live your life.

Stan

Lloyd,

Just curious, who's making allegations and what is it exactly that they are alleging?

Stan

lol, talk about false acusations.  What questions have I been asked that I have not answered?