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And just like that, the plot thickens...note however, that she also denies having flunked that part of the polygraph.

Nonombre, you wrote:

"Is it possible that it is Ms. McCarthy who is now lieing (to save her image)?"

Am I to believe that you are a polygrapher and that you cannot even properly spell the word "lying?!"

Have you no shame? How can you show your face on this board, let alone among your fellow polygraphers without even being able to spell a word that would seemingly be central to your profession?

How can you lecture us on the truth when, if you cannot even recognize an important word that is misspelled, you would have us believe that you can detect a lie in the squiggle of a polygraph chart?

Is illiteracy common within the ranks of polygraphers? I hope you are not so sloppy with the fates of those you polygraph as you are with your spelling.

nonombre wrote on Apr 26^th, 2006 at 4:08am:


Thats good that you love your job.  But don't be ignorant thinking that people here don't have a career.  It may not be in the FBI, CIA, or Law Enforcement like they want, but that doesnt mean they are slobs or losers like you are making them out to be.  I have a great career, and my failure to get into the FBI has actually benefited me immensely.  So its not all bad.

nonombre wrote on Apr 26^th, 2006 at 4:08am:


I hope you realize that a lot of people facing a polygraph come to this site wanting to know what to expect.  I hope they read your statement over and over......

Anyways, smartass....my FBI polygraph failure didn't stop me from passing a polygraph with a different agency.

From http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12501798/

The relevant part is in paragragh 5.

CIA warns ex-agents over talking to media

The Central Intelligence Agency has warned former employees not to have unapproved contacts with reporters, as part of a mounting campaign by the administration to crack down on officials who leak information on national security issues.

A former official said the CIA recently warned several retired employees who have consulting contracts with the agency that they could lose their pensions by talking to reporters without permission. He added that while the threats might be legally "hollow," they were having a chilling effect on former employees. 

The CIA called the allegations "rubbish". Jennifer Millerwise d**e, spokeswoman for CIA director Porter Goss, said former employees with consulting deals could lose their contracts for violating the CIA secrecy agreement by having unauthorised conversations with reporters. But she stressed that under current law, "termination of a contract does not affect pensions".

The clampdown represents the latest move in what observers describe as the most aggressive government campaign against leaks in years. The Justice Department is investigating the disclosure to the media of secret overseas CIA prisons and a highly classified National Security Agency domestic spying programme authorised by President George W. Bush. Last week, the CIA fired Mary McCarthy, an intelligence officer, for allegedly leaking classified information and having undisclosed contacts with reporters.

Mr Goss has increased the number of "single issue" polygraphs – lie detector tests aimed at ferreting out leaking employees. A second former official said Mr Goss was trying to "scare everybody" by using polygraphs aggressively.

Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker, former CIA general counsel, said Mr Goss was "obviously taking a much more forward-leaning stance than any of us have seen for years". But another former intelligence official said the agency was simply returning to a "more conservative regimen" to remind employees that they work for a secret organisation.

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The House intelligence committee has asked John Negroponte, the director for national intelligence who oversees the 16 intelligence agencies, to study whether retirees could lose their pensions for disclosing classified information even when not prosecuted.

The attempt to silence former employees extends beyond those who still have consulting contracts. Larry Johnson, a former CIA official who blogs at www.TPMCafe.com, said he recently received a "threatening" letter reminding him about his confidentiality agreements.

Mr Johnson – who has criticised the White House for not aggressively investigating the outing of Valerie Plame, a former covert operative, said it was the first such letter he had received despite regularly commenting in the media on intelligence matters since his retirement in 1989. He said other former employees also received letters. 

He said the CIA was also "very forceful" in intimidating a retired official who maintains ties to the agency after he signed a letter criticising the administration over the Plame leak.

Mr Gimigliano said CIA staff officers and contractors must sign a secrecy agreement which compelled them to seek prepublication permission for anything they wrote involving the CIA, intelligence matters, and classified material. 

Mr Gimigliano added: "When a former officer or contractor fails to honour the legally binding agreement ... our Publications Review Board may send the individual a written reminder. That reminder includes the statement that 'permission to publish will not be denied solely because information may be embarrassing to or critical of the agency' ... Obviously, such letters contain no threats."

But Mr Johnson and other critics say the campaign is also intended to crack down on politically embarrassing comments from former officials.

"They are trying to intimidate the press and trying to intimidate employees," said Mr Johnson. "Anybody who has been critical of the Bush administration is getting letters."

Another former CIA employee who maintains links to the agency said it did not need to be blatant about threats because contractors and retirees who had relationships with agency officials understood that talking to reporters could have repercussions for future work.

"People at the agency are bright enough to see that is going on, they don't need to be reminded," the former official said.

Stanley Sporkin, former CIA general counsel during the Reagan administration and a retired judge, said it was "ridiculous" that the agency was trying to limit contacts with the media. 

He said the only restriction should be that they do not reveal classified information. Something has got to be done to address this. These days it is almost like a witch hunt," said Mr Sporkin

Those were my comments on what Nonombre wrote.

Moreover, I find it hard to take seriously anything written by a purported polygrapher who cannot even properly spell the world "lying."

You would think a polygrapher would, after all, want to carry some credibility, ironically enough.

Why would I want to put my career or freedom in the hands of a jackass joker who cannot spell the very thing he is supposedly trained to detect?

Neither would I board an aircraft knowing the pilot could not spell the word "engine" or "aileron." Then again, putting polygraphy as a profession at the same level as aviation is an insult to pilots everywhere.

retcopper is just sticking up for his own.  it's no different than defending your friend even when you know he is wrong.  just let it slide.  you know he isn't being remotely objective.

nonombre,
i have a career.  i have never taken a polygraph.  i LOVE my job, too.  the only difference i see is this:  i do not lie to the people i work with, or abuse them in any way.  i am completely upfront about all the risks and potential issues that could arise.  how often do you explain potential risks of being false positive to your victims before your start your vodoo?   

it must be nice to lie to every person you test...free from any accountablity whatsoever.  there is no truth in darkness.

Digithead:

Regarding your work into sex offenders.  The first sex offenders course i attended in 1966 I learned that pedophiles can not be cured.  It is a sad fact but true.  Nothing over the past 40 yrs has changed that perception.  I'm sorry your liberal applications of education etc., just do not work. The only thing that works is incarceration.  Polygraphy is the only useful tool in the containment method.