An organizational directory of the National Security Agency's Office of Personnel Security posted on-line by independent journalist Wayne Madsen names, among others, the NSA's polygraph staff. Although the directory dates to January 2005, Mr. Madsen reports in December 2005 that according to informed sources, the information in the directory "remains relatively up-to-date":



For ease of reading, the text associated with Section Q21 is reproduced here. CH=Chief, D/Ch=Deputy Chief, TD=Technical Director:

Q21
Investigations and Polygraph

CH: James G. Hopkins
D/Ch, Investigations: Anne C. Herzich
D/Ch, Polygraph: Joseph W. Pugh
TD, Polygraph: Daniel H. Baxter
Spec Assist, Polygraph: Lorry Ginovsky

Background Investigations/RIPs

Q211- Patricia H. Brown
Q213- Kemper W. Moog
Q21A- Elizabeth A. Mangano
Q21B- A. Gregory Bover
Q21C- Robert J. Amrhein
Q21D- Anita Johnson
Q21E (TBD)

Special Investigations

Q212- Thomas B. McClay

Polygraph

Q214- Daniel R. Hiltz
Q215- Jacqueline R. Clark
Q216- Bradley S. Day
Q217- William R. Stevenson
Q218- Christopher E. Powell
Q219- William D. King
Q210- [sic] Andrew Pecoraro

well, you could give them code names like Liar #1, Liar #2, Liar#3 etc.

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Mr. Maschke,

I do not know if I would buy the arguement that these intelligence personnel wake up each morning contemplating the "false accusations" they plan to make that particular day.  However, I believe the more important question right now is:

Aren't these people intelligence officers of the United States government?  As such, I would suspect they travel and operate if not always covertly, at least "low profile?"

I fear that by this reporter and now you publicly identifying them, you may have in fact endangered these agents ability to operate, their very lives, and perhaps national security as well.

What about the security officers you identified who are not even polygraph examiners?  Are they to suffer by association?

Seems to me to be to steep a price to pay.   

Regards,

Nonombre

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I'm sorry, but I disagree.  First of all, I understand that some of the polygraph examiners in the U.S. government are indeed in a covert status.  Secondly, how would you like to be in a group of tourists taken hostage and the hostage takers figure out that you are an NSA employee?

Please understand, these people don't know the difference between CIA and NSA, they don't know and don't care who may or may not be "covert," or exactly what your job may be.  As an employee of any U.S. government intelligence agency, you are an immediate and highly desirable target.  You are an "American spy," pure and simple. 

Can you spell dead? 

And that is why I am highly troubled by the public posting of these intelligence officer's names.  Just because you can get something through FOIA does not mean you should post it all over the internet.  That is just plain stupid.


Nonombre
      

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That is because George has probably never had to go through any of those individuals for a ploygraph.

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If it was that sensitive it, more than likely, wouldn't be accessible from the public internet.   

     Let me just clear myself by saying that I am not totally against polygraphing for suspected criminals, as the interrigation may get the truth out if he'she is guilty, but pre employment interrogation in LE jobs?  COME ON.  Regular applicants trying to get a job to perform a good deed service to one's community should have to go through that humiliation and disrespect.  NO ONE IS PERFECT!.  I know that this paragraph don't have nothing to do with this topic, but in came to mind and I needed to get that off my chest.   

-Smokey

Nonombre thinks they are endangered because he puts all these examiners on a high pedestal.  I can understand his feelings of wanting to protect his "own kind", that is birds of a feather flock together.  But, in this case, birds of a feather lie together.

Madsen points out that the directory is marked "For Official Use Only." Which means it's unclassified. None of the personnel on the roster are undercover agents.

Indeed, two of the NSA polygraphers named (Lorry Ginovsky and Daniel Baxter) are officers of the Maryland Polygraph Association and have publicly listed not only their names, but also their home and personal e-mail addresses as well as their office phone number: (410) 854-6363.

While I appreciate the security concerns expressed by NoNombre, I believe they are greatly overstated.

jtsmit wrote on Dec 6^th, 2005 at 10:34am:


Yeah, that was probably pushing the envalope a little bit.