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detectTHIS New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 25^th, 2005	Denied Clearance....polygraph? Oct 26^th, 2005 at 4:48am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I got denied today for my interim security clearance. I am almost positive this is due to marijuana use in college. I still have a shot at my clearance, but this would entail the detailed background investigation, where they would almost positively find out about my extensive marijuana use. My question is, should I volunteer for a polygraph and try to beat it? Does anyone know the DoD’s policy on marijuana? If I do not get a clearance, consider my career over...


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detectTHIS New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 25^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #1 - Oct 26^th, 2005 at 4:52am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Keep in mind; I have an ABSOLUTELY perfect background. No arrests, not even a speeding ticket. I have never been in trouble my whole life, only used a little marijuana.


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #2 - Oct 26^th, 2005 at 7:08am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	First off, you have a responsibility to be honest on your BI (Background Investigation) Anything short of it, means there is a potential somewhere for it to come back and bite you. ANd you will always be wondering when it will. If your military and falsify your SF 86 then they can at a minimun give you an article 15 and remove you from a position of trust, to a maximum of a court martial plus brig time. If its a civilian job, then you don't stand a chance of being hired, should the BI dig up missing inflamatory information. It all depends on the level of information you are missing. Its always prudent when dealing with security to be in a position of knowlege and knowing that you have given them everything. Robust total honesty means they will look favorably on you, as then they will find nothing at all. Because you have told them about it. As far as the polygraph is concerned, just another pain in the butt hoop to get through. ANd if you read the downloads on this website, the polygraph is nothing. good luck

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polyrized User Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Aug 5^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #3 - Oct 26^th, 2005 at 2:17pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Eos Does that include giving out information about kinky sex practices that would never be public knowledge when asked about this area during lifestyle questions on a polygraph?? Please reference my other posts about security vs suitability and how this type of information can be passed on to other agencies that would normally not have access to such information.


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EosJupiter Especially Senior User Offline But of Course ... Posts: 483 Location: Always Out There ...... Joined: Feb 28^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #4 - Oct 26^th, 2005 at 4:43pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Poly ... What ever happens behind closed doors between consenting adults is there business. Definately not the governments. Now if they find something on the BI that you didn't tell them about, like say a, run in with the law. It would definately be a bad thing, and no adjudicator will sign off on that clearance. I always made it a point to make sure that the info for my BI was as accurate as possible. WIthin reason of course !! Now if someone coughs up the information on there sex life and kinky habits. Well then they have to live with that, and could potentially DQ that clearance. Otherwise party on dude !! (-Bill & Ted-) I believe in honesty not polygraphy ..... ciao

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polyfool Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 311 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #5 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 2:52am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	detectTHIS, You better come clean with your background investigator--you can't even keep your story straight in two back to back posts on this site. In your first post, you say that you used marijuana extensively, then you turn around literally less than five minutes later and say you only used a little marijuana. Which is it? Do yourself a favor and tell the truth because there's a good chance it will be uncovered during your background probe. If the investigator(s) find something you didn't admit to, you definitely won't get the clearance. Good luck.


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detectTHIS New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 25^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #6 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:17am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	polyfool wrote on Oct 27^th, 2005 at 2:52am: detectTHIS, You better come clean with your background investigator--you can't even keep your story straight in two back to back posts on this site. In your first post, you say that you used marijuana extensively, then you turn around literally less than five minutes later and say you only used a little marijuana. Which is it? Do yourself a favor and tell the truth because there's a good chance it will be uncovered during your background probe. If the investigator(s) find something you didn't admit to, you definitely won't get the clearance. Good luck. I said little as a figure of speech you idiot. Stupid dumbass.


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detectTHIS New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Oct 25^th, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #7 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:20am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I have been completely honest in everything I have ever done. I went to a liberal CA college and even smoked pot with a professor.


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Administrator Administrator Offline Posts: 343 Joined: Sep 28^th, 2000	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #8 - Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:25am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	detectTHIS wrote on Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:17am: I said little as a figure of speech you idiot. Stupid dumbass. Your above post is in clear violation of AntiPolygraph.org's posting policy, to which you agreed at the time you registered on this message board. Please review our posting policy and abide by it.

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polyfool Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 311 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2005	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #9 - Oct 28^th, 2005 at 2:46am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	detectTHIS wrote on Oct 27^th, 2005 at 7:17am: I said little as a figure of speech you idiot. Stupid dumbass. detectTHIS, Sensitive, are we? Don't get mad at me because you can't keep your story straight. On second thought, go ahead and volunteer to take the poly and lie your a** off to your background investigator. A good interrogator will eat you alive.


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Brandon Hall Ex Member	Re: Denied Clearance....polygraph? Reply #10 - Oct 28^th, 2005 at 8:28am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	You know, that's what I get tired of, liars looking for help. The liars give those of us that got screwed a bad name. Perhaps you can look to Doug Williams for help.


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