Don't bother applying with another PD for AT LEAST another three years-- 5-7years is better.  You won't get anywhere if you you try again sooner than that.  Many PD's will auto-DQ you because of the number of times you used regardless of how long ago it was.  Hash is concidered a "hard drug" by many PD's and that will auto-DQ you with them for life.

Wait 3-5 years (minimum) and then contact the recruiters in advance about your drug use and see if you fall within thier hiring parameters.  There is no other way, unless you plan on lying about it in the future, which I wouldn't recommend.

Cheers.

25 instances as in each hit as an instance, I just don't see the logic in Dq'ing someone for usage in high school in college when the President, incharge of a nuclear aresonal, was convicted of DUI and used cocaine.. Only in America.

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Your memory is quite impressive to be able to remeber 25 individual "hits."  Most agencies I have looked into want to know the number of usages as in smoking a joint, not singular puffs.  Maybe have a go at counting in this manner.  Your uses will probably decrease if you do so.

You said you passed the polygraph.  As drug usage is a normal part of a pre-employment screen I am left to wonder.  Before taking your poly did you complete a background packet with questions regarding drug history?  If so were you honest on the packet?  Was the packet reviewed prior to the poly?  Did you know the agencies drug history guidlines?  Were you truthful during your poly?  Did you employ countermeasures?  I ask because in my experience as an applicant this information was asked right up-front.  If standards were not met, one does not proceed in the process.  I don't know the particular order for your testing.  My order was physical agility, written apptitude, background interview, poly - DQ.

To your question:  Recent drug use is an automatic disqualifier regardless of written or physical scores.  Police agencies have guidelines for past drug history.  Example: Arizona POST will not certify you as a peace officer if you have smoked mj within the last three years, agencies have no say in the matter.  Albuquerque PD has a requirement of 2 years since last use and they mention nothing of a maximum number of times mj can have been ingested.  So I would tell you not to lose hope.  However, if you want a law enforcement career you may have to expand your options beyond your first choice.  That is what I have had to do because of a hack-job poly.  Remember drug use will depend on each agencies requirements and POST requirements in each state.

Hey nunyun,

Stay careful.  We just had a Phoenix officer ruthlessly and cowardly killed while making first approach on a traffic stop.  They found the little bastards today.  Hope a needle in the arm is in their futures.

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yeah I read that about that officer.  A Pittsburgh cop was shot the other day also chasing two robbery suspects he was killed.

MEANWHILE IN SoCal.......Thanks to LASO's shoot first and ask questions later.  Although I think the shoot was justified, it was the manner in which it was done does not look good for the deaprtment.

I am a little farther south and we have had several shootings, thanks to LA we stay out of the limelight.  As long we make it home to our familys, that is all I care about......Summer is here in SoCal let the good times roll!   

nunyun wrote on May 17^th, 2005 at 2:30am:


Nunyun,

If you are referring to the SUV shooting in Compton, I agree that it was justified. However, if you viewed the tape of that shooting the deps involved are SEMI- CIRCLE around the vehicle. The deputy who was shot is fortunate to be alive. We had another dep killed just about a year ago in a friendly fire incident. He left behind an baby who will never know her daddy. 

The Sheriff is trying to perform major damage control by still crying bad training. But you have to be cognizant of the caliber of people you hire. 

The LASO poly failure rate is about 75%. Many people hired by the SO are very YOUNG (21-25) and just guessing most are NOT educated beyond high school. You get what you pay for after these kids spend 5-7 years sitting around in the jails waiting for their patrol school and only being trained and refeshed on jail ops. These deps hit the streets and when they get in the mix with a situation with deadly potential, well you saw the results.

As long as the LASD uses the polygraph as their primary screening device, they will never have the amount of people they need to do the job. The LASD just got a huge influx of cash from the Board of Supervisors to open closed jails and hire more deps. But when they speak of hiring 500 in a year, not going to happen, always said, never delivered.


Fred F.

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Fair Chance,

The pay at the SO is great for someone who may or may not ever consider higher education. A regular deputy with a little OT can make  $65-70000/year.

As far as what you stated above. The SO has just put out several edicts on drinking/driving. It seems a few too many are getting arrested and luckily not hurting anybody. 

You make a great point regarding drinking.

Fred F.

nunyun wrote on May 25^th, 2005 at 3:40am:

Nunyun,

That is why it is important to get more people hired and cut down the amount of time the deputies spend in jail. As long as the polygraph is being utilized in the manner it is, these goals seem very lofty.

The patrol training is refreshed before they hit the streets, however, the boot has to depend on his FTO to provide him the necessary insight into patrol work. This has to include potentially violent situations.

You raise a good point that you were at a SWT training session.  This is why you seldom see SWT memebers make mistakes because they are constantly training and preparing for situations that can and will occur.

Patrol deputies need to have training updates at more regular intervals and it should include live training with the video updates.

As for Maverick..... Well, you can be my wingman anytime...


Fred F.