thevet2

Have you read "Breathing Reactions" under the Polygraph Policy. Read it then comment.

If you believe Wonder Woman's magic lasso is infallible, then I guess you would believe in the polygraph. Both were invented by the same man.

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The possibility that some of the persons who post here are not honest is quite plausible.  I would also agree that there are numerous bad polygraph examiners out there (all of them in my opinion).  Not because the examiners are necessarily bad people but because they have placed belief in this skewed "science."

I am pleased that you have encountered little difficulty in "passing" previous polys to which you and your behaviors have been subject.  The purpose of countermeasures is to aid truthful examinees from being labeled and deemed dishonest.  A dream torn to shreds leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.  I speak from experience in this regard.  To have one's ambitions ripped away based on arbitrary and subjective testing is disheartening to say the least.  From my experience in the polygraph/interrogation seat I most certainly suggest employing countermeasures.  I am no angel, however I sleep well knowing that I was honest and this system of "weeding-out" has mislabeled me and countless others.  Every other method of testing I underwent had a standard (physical agility, written testing, background interview).  The polygraph was the one which held no standardized testing format.  It was at the discretion and interpretation of the polygraph artist and the polygraph artist alone.  That is why I choose to do all that I, as an individual, can do to accomplish an end to this mockery of science.

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The purpose is to prevent a false positive outcome (read: the test outcome is that one is lying when in fact one was truthful). This is necessary because polygraph "tests" have not been shown to have better than chance accuracy in peer-reviewed studies conducted under field conditions.

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Your mistake here is extrapolating your own experience to everyone else. Tests of deception conducted with a coin flip would have roughly half of those "tested" concluding that the test is nothing to fear as well. Getting a heads result twice within five years is certainly within the realm of statistical probabilities as well.

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In actuality, it is because that people are being evaluated with a non-scientific "test" that lacks any type of standardization that has not been shown to reliably determine truth from deception. 

polyfool wrote on Mar 29^th, 2005 at 5:22pm:
   

I am not researching how to beat the polygraph, I was told about this sight by two candidates I refered to employment services in my department.  They told me about the sight and that they had used the counter measures and been confronted with their counter measures.  They now have to wait another two years to reapply and try again.  I am not researching how to beat the system, looking at why they were unable to pass and maybe get others to see that this does not always work.  I have not seen a post that tells of anyone that passed a polygraph using counter measures while telling lies.  I have not looked at all the posts on this site, so maybe there are persons that have used the counter measures and passed while telling lies.   

thevet2,

The diagnostic outcome of CQT polygraphy (in particular with polygraph screening applications) is  not about good or bad  examiners--it is about poor procedure.  From the point of view of diagnostic validity, the outcome is the same for either , i.e.,  poor procedure in the hand's of a good/competent examiner leads to the same result as a poorly designed  procedure in the hands of a bad polygrapher---neither is valid.  Make no mistake about it--that which is uniformly flawed is the procedure used, and no positive qualities or skills of the examiner can overcome this fatal defect.  Polygraph screening is mere quackery and does NOT work as a diagnostic test.  It should be pointed out though that (as has been mentioned by others) because that which is being addressed is a  binary event, i.e., someone is either being deceptive or truthful about some issue, a polygraph test or a flip of the  coin will result in  a correct answer with some frequency, not through sound diagnosis, but through the laws of random probability.

I have gotten the message.  You do not trust polygraph or the procedures.  I will not make any further statements because I do not have the knowledge base it appears you have.  If I have offended, I do apolagize.  I do feel that I was treated good and the results were correct, if that is a coin toss, then so be it.  It worked for me, not against me.  I again will state that the individuals testing me were good men and treated me with respect.  I cannot speak for others, only myself.  It is apparant that I am on the outside in this forum and therefore will not be back.  Good luck to all.

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