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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Poly Jun 25^th, 2005 at 9:46am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Police in Suffolk County, New York have arrested Donald Howell, a Metropolitan Transit Authority Police officer, on drug trafficking charges. Howell reportedly had been dealing drugs even before he was hired by the MTA Police, who require that applicants pass a polygraph "test" as a condition of employment. Quote: http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstoriesny_story_174170632.html MTA Cop In Big Trouble With The Law * Will Face 15 Years To Life If Convicted Jun 23, 2005 6:32 pm US/Eastern An MTA cop finds himself on the wrong side of the law. But it's what he did before he even became an officer that's causing quite a controversy. Thirty-two-year-old Donald Howell was an officer for the MTA, guarding one of the city’s prime terrorist targets. Now, he is sitting behind bars on drug-related charges. "He was involved in the drug business while on duty in the city," says Thomas Spota, Suffolk D.A. of Howell. Suffolk County investigators confiscated bags of drugs, thousands of dollars in cash and several guns while executing search warrants at the homes of suspected cocaine ring members. Nine people were arrested, including officer Howell. Police say they videotaped him selling two ounces of cocaine before suiting up for his other job. They had been investigating him for seven months. “To think that somebody in a position of trust like a police officer is involved in this nefarious activity is really chilling," said Richard Dormer, Suffolk PD Commissioner. Prosecutors say that Howell was a drug dealer who became a cop, not the other way around. The MTA says Howell had no criminal record, aced a lie detector test, and passed his drug-screening test. Howell was hired in January 2004, which means that he was still a probationary member of the force. Because of this, he was fired today. He is currently being held on $500,000 bail on charges that could send the former officer to jail for 15 years to life if he is convicted.
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railroaded New User Offline Posts: 23 Joined: Jun 7^th, 2005	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2005 at 9:21pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Wait...I'm confused. I thought polygraphs were nearly 100% accurate and that countermeasures are ineffective. What am I missing here?


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mike_C. User Offline Posts: 25 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2005	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #2 - Jul 2^nd, 2005 at 6:42am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Hey.....maybe he logged onto AntiPolygraph.org and learned a few tips! (just kidding!)


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dimas Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 3^rd, 2001 Gender:	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #3 - Jul 2^nd, 2005 at 6:52pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	This is very sad news and extremely disturbing. Ultimately, one has to wonder if in fact he employed countermeasures while taking his polygraph or if this would in fact have been attributable to polygrapher error. The one thing I am very curious about is whether or not the actual background process for the MTA was cut back due to the implementation of the polygraph as part of their background process and if perhaps good old foot work would have discovered this officer's past activities. It shocks me that many agencies who now have the polygraph have simply implemented the mailing out of questionairres as part of the background process in lieu of face to face and phone interviews. The simple fact of the matter is that this scumbag should not have made it on to the MTA.

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G Scalabr Global Moderator Offline Posts: 358 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #4 - Jul 3^rd, 2005 at 9:03am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: The one thing I am very curious about is whether or not the actual background process for the MTA was cut back due to the implementation of the polygraph as part of their background process and if perhaps good old foot work would have discovered this officer's past activities. The MTA Police Department is an odd animal, in that its officers receive certification in both New York and Connecticut. It is the Connecticut POST requirment (that all applicants must be polygraphed) that forces MTA to use it. Thus, I don't think that the polygraph use is related to a budget cut.
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Sergeant1107 God Member Offline Posts: 730 Location: Connecticut, USA Joined: May 21^st, 2005 Gender:	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #5 - Jul 4^th, 2005 at 5:56pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	You are absolutely correct about the Connecticut POST requirement for the polygraph. Unfortunately, there seems to be no movement in Connecticut toward doing away with the polygraph for pre-employment screening of police officers. Other Connecticut police officers I speak with about polygraph testing seem to be fairly evenly divided in their opinions. About half of them think polygraph testing is completely inaccurate and worthless, and the other half thinks it’s pretty good and better than nothing. Not surprisingly, the cops I speak with who tell me they’ve done some research on polygraphs are the ones who believe that it’s worthless, while the ones who admit they don’t really know a lot about polygraphs are the ones who seem to think it’s pretty good. If that’s how the opinions are divided for patrol officers and detectives, I wouldn’t be surprised if the same holds true for chiefs and other administrators. As long as things remain that way, polygraph use in pre-employment screening is certain to continue.

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hwsternfan User Offline Posts: 40 Joined: Feb 7^th, 2005	Re: Drug Dealing NY MTA Cop Aced Pre-Employment Po Reply #6 - Jul 12^th, 2005 at 7:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Ultimately, one has to wonder if in fact he employed countermeasures while taking his polygraph or if this would in fact have been attributable to polygrapher error. Actually its attributable to the fact that the lie detector doesn't detect shyte!


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