Note that although the National Institute of Truth Verification has admitted in court that the Computer Voice Stress Analyzer "is not capable of lie detection," it continues to represent the opposite to the public via its website, which provides illustrations that purport to show the difference between lying and truth-telling and avers that "[t]he CVSA™ gets to the truth and accurately identifies deception, or validates statements in the shortest possible time..."

http://www.cvsa1.com/product.php

winchester wrote on Nov 6^th, 2006 at 9:10pm:


The comparison with the urban-legendary copy machine is an apt one. However, it is one that is seemingly lost on those agencies that rely on this quack device to screen applicants. You still run a significant risk of being falsely branded a liar and wrongly disqualified from the hiring process.

Vipreman

While checking out a mining property in Columbia. SA, I saw an old woman with a doll about 10 inches long from toe to head. Laying beside the doll were needles that ranged from about 1 inch to about 3 inches. I saw her stick a 2 inch needle in the doll's upper arm. When I got back to camp, one of the men who was hired as a tool carrier was rolling around on the ground holding his arm. You see, she had told him that he was going to be punished for eloping with her daughter. He believed in voo doo too. Isn't the CVSA operated thusly?

polyvsa wrote on May 17^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

Please provide your empirical data to support this statement.

Bill,

I am co-developer of the product.

Can you mention ONE polygraph study that was not industry funded ? (mnfr-> apa -> fed govt or uni ) I dont think so according to NAS 2003.

I am not a greenhorn btw. I have been in the PDD industry for +25 yrs and hold a poly instr cert from LIC circa 1987.

AVSA is based on original vsa - Lippold tremor. Unlike lvas and other vsa's, AVSA has a neural network scoring processor trained by scoring and input of human expertise.

I am satisfied that avsa is as reliable as poly in the hands of a skilled examiner. 'Skilled' being a prerequisite.

AVSA as a product needs no study just as axciton, lic, limestone etc need no product study. The latter mnfrs rely on existing poly studies and in turn avsa relies on existing vsa studies.

I have no quarrel with tecgnologies. I have quarrel with ignorant examiners who claim to be professionals. Really, if one has not tried different tech's oneself, then one should not badmouth that which one does not know.

If you are actually interested in the reliability of AVSA I would be happy to provide you with a trial copy.

Dont be one dimensional in your approach to DOD. Use all the skills and technology available to you.

My eml is visible in my profile if you want to take up the offer.

Be Nice.

polyvsa wrote on May 27^th, 2011 at 12:49pm:

If the product had any real intrinsic validity, the codeveloper would not have to peddle it on websites.

Bill,
I resigned from APA in 2000 when they did the vsa cleansing rituals.

I resigned from pasa shorlty thereafter. pasa management was guilty of gross unethical conduct, which I reported to the apa in much detail....apa did nothing. Therefore no reason to continue membership with either.

I had in fact been testing with vsa and polygraph since 1985.

Gordon Barland requested that I remove my reference to being apa certified. As I have an apa certificate with my  name on it, it means that I was certified. Ceasing membership does not invalidate the fact that I was certified.
Therefore I refused. My website does not state that I am a member...it states "certificates of graduation and membership received".....which I have. 

Now where is the fraud ?


I am a licensed insurance consultant. I consult both as a broker and at other times as a fraud consultant. I have trained insurance investigators and police investigators in forensic investigation techniques since late 80's.

I was a member of the Assoc of Certified Fraud Examiners Tx and SA for years. I let my memberships lapse.

LIc = Lafayette Instrument Company.
I completed an Instructors course there in 1998.
Chris Faucett will remember me.

WRT to SAPA (actually PASA) their anti-vsa stance leaves me cold. They merely cut and paste from APA website.
I dont think there is 1 amongst them that could spell research. Their website lists President: Daan Bekker...well God bless his soul, the man passed away several years ago.
PASA is run by a zombie it seems.

I am not ONE Dimensional Bill.
I did develop AVSA with Alpes. I am the primary distributor. I am VSA Instructor and based on my Certification from LIC, I am also permitted by law to instruct polygraph in SA, which I do. I teach forensic investigation techniques. I have written a book on DOD (sold out 3 print runs) and have been asked by publisher to write another - nearly finished.
I am a licensed insurance consultant in 4 categories. I have a restaurant with an adjoining theatre.
I buy and sell cut diamonds. My wife and I manufacture jewellery. We buy and sell antique furniture. 

Now that I have corrected you, I think an apology is in order.