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Reply #45 - Dec 7th, 2003 at 1:31am
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I never did like taking drugs or drinking.  I feeling of "not being in control" was not enjoyable to me.

Really? Exactly how is it that you "didn't like taking drugs" yet you stated at the start of this thread: Quote:

First, I smoked tons and tons of marijuana, did LSD, meth, and E back in high school.  I have even sold a few bags of weed in the past.  I smoked marijuana up until February when I decided to give trying to be a cop a try.


I guess a few "bags of weed" is pretty "minute" compared to the "tons" you smoked. Wink A bag of grass will get a fair number of people pretty damned loaded.

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Yes, I sold minute amounts of marijuana to my friends on a handful of occations as a highschooler, but that does not make me a drug dealer.


A badge and a gun. Sheesh. What is it that attracts you to LE?

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Reply #46 - Dec 7th, 2003 at 5:35am
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Mom,

I think you would be truely surprised as to just how many people have either used or experimented with drugs in their teens and 20s.  I can't quote you any hard figures, but when I was a high school student in the 70s, that figure would be ............ very high.  I think that many did it out of peer pressure, not because they truely enjoyed it.  Same thing with alcohol.   

As for calling Ted a drug dealer, I don't think that is fair.  He very well may have sold some joints to a friend, so he could ride in his Camaro and meet some "groovy chicks."  Ok, I'm dating myself here......This hardly qualifies him as a card carrying member of the Medellin drug cartel.  More than likely, he was just a dumb kid doing it to be "cool."   

As for his boasting here on the internet......well, this is the antipolygraph website.  He proved without a doubt how worthless the polygraph is, and that it can be easily defeated with properly used countermeasures.   

Now, for your son.......

He sounds like a very decent person.  Maybe too nice of a guy.  However, I think that he has taken the whole polygraph experience too personal.  Like Michael Corleone said in The Godfather, "it's not personal Sonny, it's strictly business."  This is the attitude that your son needs to take if he ever applies to another police agency.  He now realizes how bogus the polygraph is, and he can plan ahead this time and defeat it.  He needs to forget about what he thinks is right and wrong, what he considers to be ethical or unethical, he just needs to do what he has to do in order to secure the job.  Sound harsh?  Hey, life isn't fair.  If he doesn't do this, he will never get past the BI/polygraph phase.  How ethical is it to base an entire BI on the basis of a polygraph exam?  I think it's completely unethical since I consider it (the polygraph) basic witchcraft.  The police dept feels differently, so since they are the ones doing the hiring, we have to play by their rules.   

I think there is such a thing as being too honest and forthcoming to these investigators.  You open up a Pandora's Box  whenever you volunteer information.  Does it mean anything today that you stole a Snickers Bar 20 years ago at the 7-11?  No, it's irrelevant......so why bother trying to explain this non event in your life?  Are you catching my drift here?   

You mentioned that you would admit to anyone who asked, that you researched the polygraph.  I have already addressed this in another post, and I will reiterate that I think this is bad advise.  Remember that while you are in the hotseat, you need to give the appearance that you are playing the examiner's game.  Admitting to knowing all about control questions, countermeasures, etc.....sends the wrong message to the examiner, and I guarantee you that he will be suspicious.  My advise is to play dumb and use countermeasures.   

Ok, my fingers are tired now..........

Kona
  
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Reply #47 - Dec 13th, 2003 at 12:04am
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> or maybe Ted, he applied duiring a month when 
> WHITE BOYS NEED NOT APPLY..due to some quota

Damn, Mom! You raised THE PERFECT CHILD (just like Mary!) only to have him foiled by shifty job-stealing Negroes! I feel so sorry for you!  Cry

Hmm. That last part wasn't sarcastic...  Undecided

FYI: Jesus wasn't a white boy. And your son's not Jesus. And Ted might be a prick, but you don't come off so well yourself.

  
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Reply #48 - Dec 13th, 2003 at 3:57am
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Proverbs,

Slow down my friend.........that comment was by no means dealing with anything but the truth.  I am in no way finding fault.......nor do I feel superior because I am white......only stating a point!!!!!
Just for your information, if you are black there are times when you need not apply either!!!! and times when Latinos not !!!!!!!and many times when MALES not apply as women are being more activly recruted.......

Each class at LAPD is selected to meet the current criteria as far as obtaining parity with the current needs of the community.  And again you must remember that affirmative action is alive and well and currently being used all over the place. Why are you so sensitive?????Have you personally been dealt with poorly due to it????

Now the Mary remark.........give me a break.......and I have no idea what color Jesus was or is.......All I know is that he is a higher being and watches and protects us all.  And loves us all equally.....  So, if you were going towards the White Power thing you are so off base placing me there.......Nope........no score for you on that one.

And, my son!!!  He is all of the things I have posted and more.  He got screwed by the system...............like so many before him and after.   

So tonight when you sit down to say your prayers....ask for some forgivness for judging me incorrectly........

Best to you my black brother............
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Reply #49 - Jan 6th, 2004 at 3:23am
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Well, I finished the second week of the academy.  There was a lot of running, push ups, sit ups, marching and mofre running.  I am sore and my calves are killing me.  We recently got fitted for uniforms and duty gear.  The classwork is insane.  I did not expect there to be so much studying.  I feel overwhelmed, however, I know I will be able to do it.  There are a lot of good people in my academy class.  I have bonded with many of them and we are helping to support each other.  I threw up on a couple of the runs because they ran us so hard.  I should have gotten into better shape before the academy.  I hope ever one had a good New Year.
  
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Reply #50 - Jan 15th, 2004 at 6:50pm
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Ted I come from the same backround. It was and still is normal to do drugs where I am from. Growing up that is all I knew, and yes when I was younger I did do a little myself. I am not making any excuses for what I did but when it is all around you and that's what you learn growing up you can not help it.  Now that I am older I want to make a difference but I can't because of my past. The only choice I have is to use CM's on the poly. Am I a bad person for that? Or am I a bad person because I grew up in a drug infested area and I fell for the peer presure when I was younger?  If your not from these area's you might not understand so it is easy to say what you want about Ted, but just remember for every person that makes it out of these area's 20 don't and out of those people that make it out, only a handful of them come back to try and do something to make a difference. Just remember that when your casting your jugement on Ted.

P.S. Yo Ted, what questions did they ask you on your interview and how did you respond? Is there anything you can tell me to get me ready for it? thanks bro. Good luck to you.
  
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Reply #51 - Jan 15th, 2004 at 7:16pm
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Yo Ted.  Go ahead and tell this polygraph guy what questions you were asked on your interview and how you answered - that will give them even more info that will help ID you and get your sorry ass kicked out.
  
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Reply #52 - Jan 16th, 2004 at 12:02am
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Ted,
Good for you,  Im hoping that you take those street smarts and make an excellent law officer.  I do hope however that they run the crap out of you at the academy so that you appreciate the opportunity you have and cherish it.  Smiley

To the various "Moms" on this site,  Remember that not all people beleive as you do and no matter what, you should respect others beleif systems as much as your own and Please for "Whatever god you cherish christian or otherwise" sake change your login so I can tell the difference between you all.

To anyone that beleives that you can decipher the ID of anyone that posted here? Wake up and smell the coffee its unlikely unless you launch a full investigation with some of the top people in the government, why do you think they have such fun finding people that Hack or put viruses up on the internet.... its because its very easy to be anonymous. If you think Im wrong ... I dare you find out one iota of information about me that I dont give specifically in posts here  Smiley  trust me you will find nothing but dead air.


Good luck all,  and Ted your account gives me hope that my minor infractions from many years in the past will not screw my quest for the badge.

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Reply #53 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 4:26am
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PAQ,

They asked me questions about my knowledge of community policing and wheat I thought the role the police should play in the community.  I forget exactly what I said, but I said something to the effect of community policing being a form of police work where the police and communtiy work together.  Where the police are a part of the community and have a direct role in the community pulse.  I mention that the police can become involved in the community by sponsering event like little leauge baseball, pop warner football and stuff like that.  They asked me about my educational background and work background.  They did not ask me a single scenero question which surprised me.  They asked me why I wanted to be a police officer and why I was the best guy for the job.  The questions were fairly standard and I was able to answer the questions well.  I surprised myself with how well I did in the interview.  Every question they asked me, I was able to answer clearly and with confidence.   

As far as the academy goes, it is very hard.  I have been keeping up with the studing and assignments.  I have been getting yelled at a lot because I keep messing up while marching.  I had to write a couple memos to explain why I was having problems.  I am getting better now so it is not a big deal now.  The PT is crazy.  I really should have gotten myself into better shape before the academy.  A few people we dropped already.  One time, a lieutenant came into the classroom and told a recruit to get her hat and books and she never came back.  It was an eyeopener.  I drive a stick shift truck and when I drive home from the academy, my legs are so tired, I can barely push the clutch in.  I lost my voice last week because of all the yelling they make us do.  I sometimes wonder if I made a mistake coming here.  I know I can do it, I am jsut exhausted.  I gotta go.
  
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Reply #54 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 5:53pm
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Thanks for the info, it really helps. Good luck to you and stay in there. Thanks again.
  
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Reply #55 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 9:39pm
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This is why LAPD is so screwed up, folks.
  
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Reply #56 - Jan 19th, 2004 at 11:22pm
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Sounds to me like hes working his ass off and trying his best to get the job done, and doing it with a  good attitude as well......

I wouldnt use that as an example of why LAPD is screwed up.... 

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Reply #57 - Jan 21st, 2004 at 6:11pm
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Ted what  is your educational backround? You don't have to go into detail because I know some of these people are trying to figure out who you are, but I was hoping you can give me some kind of idea, like did you go to college or not? Did you drop out of high school or get your G.E.D? Stuff like that, so I can compare it to myself to see what my chance's are. Thanks again for all the info and good luck to you.
  
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Reply #58 - Feb 9th, 2004 at 4:50am
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Ted Seals,

Okay, I can tell who the cops are on here, and I'm right with them.  You are so full of crap, I don't even have to interview you face to face and I can see it.  The guilty begin to retreat when confronted with the truth, which you are doing.  Why do you refer to "the Police" in one of your statements like they are the other people...  You screwed it up right there, you're mentality when typing shows you're full of it.
  
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Reply #59 - Feb 9th, 2004 at 5:18am
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The guilty begin to retreat when confronted with the truth, which you are doing.  Why do you refer to "the Police" in one of your statements like they are the other people


Ruthless,

Maybe the reason Ted Seals is refering to the police like they are other people is because he isn't a police officer yet.  As far as I can tell, he is still a cadet in the POST Basic Academy, and hasn't earned his badge. 

Next time you might want to quote his text so the rest of us know exactly to what you are refering.   

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