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Eastwood Senior User Offline Posts: 60 Joined: Jun 21^st, 2002	The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Dec 17^th, 2002 at 6:30am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I would opine that the polygraph instrument is not the problem - it's who is operating it. Incompetent examiners = an incompetent product.


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G Scalabr Global Moderator Offline Posts: 358 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #1 - Dec 17^th, 2002 at 7:24am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Eastwood: Incompetent examiners = an incompetent product. I agree. Unfortunately, the field as a whole is incompetent when it comes to determining truth from deception. I am not aware of peer-reviewed research proving that any examiner has demonstrated the ability to reliably determine truth from deception at better than chance levels under field conditions. If you know of something I have missed, please post a citation for it here.
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Guest Guest	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #2 - Dec 19^th, 2002 at 6:25am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	....and your field is more competent......yeah! right!


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Guest Guest	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #3 - Dec 20^th, 2002 at 1:07am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I was speaking you you Mr. Scalabrini!


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G Scalabr Global Moderator Offline Posts: 358 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #4 - Dec 20^th, 2002 at 7:19am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: ....and your field is more competent......yeah! right! If there is anything that George or I have written on the accuracy of polygraphy--either in The Lie Behind the Lie Detector or on this website--that you feel is untrue, please feel free to point it out and cite peer-reviewed research that supports your point of contention. We will be happy to retract our statements and properly acknowledge your contribution. Until then, you simply make yet another self-interested gratuitous assertion.
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Anonymous Guest	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #5 - Dec 20^th, 2002 at 2:52pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Eastwood, You began this thread with the title: "The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph." You are close, but no cigars. The situation we are faced with is that examiners are using invalid polygraph formats (every single one that is and has ever been used for polygraph screening) for completely unsound applications (generalized screening of job applicants, employees, convicted sex offenders, etc.) For the situation that exists involving the aforementioned invalid formats/applications, the personal incompetence you speak of and which may well exist becomes moot. All examiners become incompetent with poor formats/applications. Under those circumstances, the more accurate version of your little ditty then becomes: "The Problem is EVERY Examiner, not the Polygraph."


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Fair Chance God Member Offline Posts: 551 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2002	Re: The Problem is the Examiner, not the Polygraph Reply #6 - Dec 20^th, 2002 at 3:02pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	The NAS states that no employment decision should be made strictly on the basis of polygraph results. They made no distinction whether or not the polygraph operator was good or bad so this becomes a moot point. Regards.


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