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Posted by: execio
Posted on: Sep 10th, 2001 at 2:47pm
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I guess it is possible that polygraphers -- under exploitation (read: re-education) of their wares -- may be attempting 'enhancements' to their technique(s) that they feel may throw off the casual client that is aware of the standard syntax of the test.

I guess if I felt that my line of work may be threatened by enlightenment of the masses, I might try to reinvent the wheel myself.

Maybe they could start attaching a bunch of nanoprobes to the clients head in hopes that wires will create the illusion necessary to intimidate and confuse the aware!


Geez,

execio
Posted by: anonymous
Posted on: Sep 10th, 2001 at 5:01am
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I answered no to every question.  I was almost blown away because i felt my plan to employ CM was foyled.  I was unsure of how I did because I was not confronted on any of the questions.  I either thought I must have passed or failed without a doubt in the examiners mind.  Well I found out I passed because I was contacted by mail about the next phase in the process.  Thanks to all of you for the information.  I feel I was able to overcome the examiners mind games and trickery due to the information i received here.  Armed with that knowledge, I was able to remain calm and recognize all the games involved in the process.  Thanks again.
Posted by: beech trees
Posted on: Sep 10th, 2001 at 3:03am
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Every question when actually hooked up started with "Are you now lying about........".  Every single one.  


Interesting. I'd be curious what the more experienced contributors here have to say about such sentence structure and test format. I take it you felt compelled to say 'no' to every single question? Or, were you directed or ordered to lie in response to certain questions and thus answered 'yes' to some?
Posted by: execio
Posted on: Sep 9th, 2001 at 11:55pm
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You know: I hope this is not too far off topic but I feel that it (somehow) relates.

Has anyone ever noticed that those people that have some working knowledge of the validity (not) of the polygraph, when tested, will walk away from the test as if it meant something?

I notice quite a few (well-informed) people that play both sides of the fence: 

PASS:
If they pass, its strut with your shoulders back and tout the empirical scientific mechanics of the polygraph. Another form of hyprocisy is confronting those that fail and suggesting (without a doubt) that they must be holding something back. 

FAIL:
Wounded appearance and limply pointing to the validity of the test without rusing anyones suspicions of a challenge. (read: passive and ever-so-slightly defiant)

Certainly, at some point, it seems one should take a stand and give up the walking-contradiction stance.


Just a thought... not a sermon,

execio
Posted by: anonymous
Posted on: Sep 9th, 2001 at 11:29pm
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Every question when actually hooked up started with "Are you now lying about........".  Every single one.
Posted by: beech trees
Posted on: Sep 9th, 2001 at 8:21am
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The questions were mostly two part questions.  They were worded like this....."Are you now lying about your past drug use and alcohol use?"  Every question started out "are you now lying about........."  I don't know, It just made it confusing for me and I was nervous.  Thinking back, I still cant pick out the control questions.


This sentence structure strikes me as odd. I understand a CQ might be phrased to contain admissions, i.e., "Other than what you have told me, have you ever..." but I can't see how anyone could make sense out of the above question. To what statement or admission is the polygrapher referring when he asks, "Are you now lying about..."?
Posted by: anonymous
Posted on: Sep 8th, 2001 at 4:37am
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The questions were mostly two part questions.  They were worded like this....."Are you now lying about your past drug use and alcohol use?"  Every question started out "are you now lying about........."  I don't know, It just made it confusing for me and I was nervous.  Thinking back, I still cant pick out the control questions.
Posted by: execio
Posted on: Sep 8th, 2001 at 12:42am
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With baited breath, I wait.... puzzled

Could the War Horse be far behind?


Cheers,

execio
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:50pm
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anonymous,

In what way(s) were your questions different than what was discussed on this site?
Posted by: anonymous
Posted on: Sep 7th, 2001 at 11:24pm
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I posted a couple of weeks ago about an upcoming poly.  Well I passed.  I had it in my head to use countermeasures and asked many questions about them on this site.  Well my test was noty what I expected.  The format of the questions were much different than what was discussed on this site.  So I was unable to recognize "control" questions from the "relevant" questions.  I believe I passed my poly strictly on my confidence of my knowledge of the deception of the process and the polygrapher.  Everything he said was exactly what the lie behind the lie detector book said that would be said.  With this I was able to see right through the mind games.  The only thing i did throughout the test was control my breathing.  Thanks and I wanted to share my experience.

Anonymous
 
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