I read recently that the Agency pulled numerous employees from its Beijing station recently, because of fear of what the Chinese hackers may have learned.

I doubt very much that the Chinese security services would ever want to post that type of information on the Internet!
I'm sure that they'd much more likely want to keep it secret for their own uses.

Wandersmann wrote on Sep 30^th, 2015 at 5:40pm:


Well I know one fact for certain: Neither the DCI nor the DDCI are required to undergo the polygraph agony!

Wandersmann wrote on Sep 27^th, 2015 at 10:05pm:

The  practice of the kidnapping and/or abduction of individuals (often completely innocent persons) who are then flown in secrecy to clandestine locations in third countries (believed to be Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Poland and Romania, among others) to be subjected to torture to a degree not permitted by US law.  Not surprisingly, the "fearless warriors" of the CIA are the principal personnel involved in the odious process.

xenonman wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:



I have a question for anyone that can answer.  Are there any statistics involving executive level officials, in any civilian or military agency, who lost a clearance or job due to failing a polygraph?  I am wondering if statistical data would show adverse personnel actions due to polygraph ending at GS-15 level ?  I know the new reality is that SES/Flag rank personnel are now royalty and everyone beneath them are commoners, but would statistical data support that as well ?

xenonman wrote on Jul 13^th, 2015 at 6:10pm:


Xenonman -  What is "Extraordinary Rendition"?

The stolen information will likely never be found on the Net or even
darknet. The likely culprits are China's intelligence and security
services. They're probably storing this info more competently than OPM.

IMHO, the counterintel value of the stolen SF-86's dwarfs the value
of info from poly admissions.

If actual identities of intelligence community "employees" have in fact been now compromised (by the Chinese or whoever), then I'd consider that a very positive development indeed! 

That's the only way in which outrages like "extraordinary rendition" will ever be stopped.  Certainly neither Congress, nor the President, nor the courts will ever act to stop the practice!

ap1011 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:16pm:


I've seen no reporting that any of the OPM data is available on any Tor hidden service.

George W. Maschke wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 6:15am:

Thanks I didn't see that other thread.  

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I've heard rumors that I could be on the darknet (onions).  I haven't looked around for it as I avoid going into any of those gray areas of the internet.   

ap1011 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2015 at 12:02am:


Yes, it could have. See "OPM Hack May Have Exposed Polygraph Information." 

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I've seen no indication that any of the exfiltrated OPM data has been posted to the Internet for anyone to look up. Have you?

I'm sure some of you may have heard about the leak that happened where all federal employees information was compromised.  What I'm wondering is if information that comes up during polygraph could have been included?  Scattered castles is a different program, but if OPM conducted any investigation regarding past polygrphy results, those results could now be in the open internet tied to your name, SS number, and address.   

I failed the polygraph years ago for a 3 letter agency, similar story to some that you see on here.  I don't want to go into specifics, but things I said were taken out of contest, twisted, and blown out of proportion.  I got a job requiring a secret clearance a few years later, but there were issues with my clearance, and OPM conducted SPIN interviews regarding things said during my polygraph.   

It's bad enough having your career ruined with this bullshit, but to have the results and personal details that came up during the lifestyle polygraph posted on the internet for anyone to look up is horrible.