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Topic Summary - Displaying 25 post(s).
Posted by: Anthony R
Posted on: Mar 17th, 2022 at 6:43pm
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The new police chief in Memphis "failed" a CVSA that was checked by "lying Bill" of NITV when she was a police officer in Atlanta.  Therefore, I doubt she would allow any type of so-called lie detection equipment.
Posted by: Maz
Posted on: Mar 13th, 2022 at 1:52am
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Memphis, TN doesn’t. They do a psychological test
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jun 24th, 2016 at 12:18pm
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AZ4344,

Our book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, includes information on how to reduce the risk of failing a polygraph "test":

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

Chapters 3 and 4 will be of particular interest.
Posted by: AZ4344
Posted on: Jun 24th, 2016 at 11:58am
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My husband was let go from a PD and although he has passed 3 polys in the past now that he is looking for a new opportunity he has failed 2 polys. He is being truthful so we assume it is just stress that is causing this. Does he have any hope at passing one after failing 2? ANy advice would be appreciated!
Posted by: SantaClaus
Posted on: Feb 9th, 2012 at 3:42am
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I'm wanting to say you can add Cleveland Police Department to the list, it doesn't mention anything about it on their website anyway. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted by: Bill_Brown
Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 5:33pm
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They are using polygraph at this time, not sure when they began.

Posted by: The Salton Sea
Posted on: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 3:05am
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Some posts on the net and on this site list DC Metro Police as not having a poly. A recruiter informed a friend of mine today that they do poly to his surprise.
Posted by: Dispatcher 08
Posted on: Aug 10th, 2011 at 4:55pm
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There aren't any LE agencies in Michigan that uses polygraphing in the application process.
Posted by: LAsam818
Posted on: Dec 20th, 2010 at 12:15pm
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Knightshaiid wrote on Nov 20th, 2009 at 5:54pm:
Departments that don't polygraph:

Washington, DC Metropolitan Police (NOT to be confused with Washington Area Metro Transit Authority who use CVSA)

US Park Police

TSA Federal Air Marshal Service


Federal Air Marshals dont poly? I always assumed they did
Posted by: skeptical
Posted on: Feb 28th, 2010 at 3:57am
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The link for Florida agency's requirements that I originally posted is no good. Here is the last CJAP. 

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Content/CJST/Menu/Publications/test.aspx

To determine if an agency requires CVSA or polygraph, click on the type of agency (i.e., Police/Sheriff/School, etc.) and then click "Requirements and Pre-Requisites." A spreadsheet will open.
Posted by: BBernie
Posted on: Nov 22nd, 2009 at 3:56pm
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Twoblock wrote on Nov 20th, 2009 at 9:52pm:
BBernie

I read your posts and you ask some pretty good questions. Why don't you write your legislators and ask them about their federal polygraph policy? (IF) they answer and the answer is not to your liking, then why not campaign against them. They sure will not agree to be polygraphed to hold their jobs. While you're at it, ask them how they will/did vote on legislation that is taking this country down, i.e. Cap and Trade, socialized health care, NAFTA and the UN's:Law of the Sea Treaty. 

Join the movement to "FLIP THE CONGRESS"


I have written a letter to Senator Feinstein.  Unfortunately, I think not much will be accomplished because there is not enough political support to change things.  Although I am sure many people have been victimized by the polygraph, not enough speak out about it.  This website is a great venue and does a tremendous amount of good in providing accurate and timely information.  The only way I can see that the polygraph will be eliminated in the hiring process is by having enough political capital....what I mean is that you have to be able to convince legislators that it would be worthwhile and in their best interests to do so...and others have written on here about that ...anything I do is going to have to keep this in mind, otherwise no progress can be made.
Posted by: pixkbi
Posted on: Nov 21st, 2009 at 1:16am
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they aren't all that selective in their hiring practices
Posted by: Twoblock
Posted on: Nov 20th, 2009 at 9:52pm
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BBernie

I read your posts and you ask some pretty good questions. Why don't you write your legislators and ask them about their federal polygraph policy? (IF) they answer and the answer is not to your liking, then why not campaign against them. They sure will not agree to be polygraphed to hold their jobs. While you're at it, ask them how they will/did vote on legislation that is taking this country down, i.e. Cap and Trade, socialized health care, NAFTA and the UN's:Law of the Sea Treaty. 

Join the movement to "FLIP THE CONGRESS"
Posted by: BBernie
Posted on: Nov 20th, 2009 at 6:49pm
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Knightshaiid wrote on Nov 20th, 2009 at 5:54pm:
Departments that don't polygraph:

Washington, DC Metropolitan Police (NOT to be confused with Washington Area Metro Transit Authority who use CVSA)

US Park Police

TSA Federal Air Marshal Service


I have a question because I am confused about all of this.  The TSA is a federal law enforcement agency ... I thought all federal law enforcement agencies were required to utilize the polygraph to determine truthfulness, honesty and integrity.  But if that is not the case, then why is there disparity and lack on continuity within the federal government for using this tool?  It would seem to me that there are valid concerns/reasoning that justify NOT using the polygraph.  So my question to the legislators is why are other government agencies still using it if it doesn't provide a true indicator of a person's honesty and trustworthiness??  (Just asking because I am confused by all of this)...or is it just all a political decision that is used within each individual agency?
Posted by: Knightshaiid
Posted on: Nov 20th, 2009 at 5:54pm
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Departments that don't polygraph:

Washington, DC Metropolitan Police (NOT to be confused with Washington Area Metro Transit Authority who use CVSA)

US Park Police

TSA Federal Air Marshal Service
Posted by: Future CPA
Posted on: Mar 15th, 2009 at 6:57am
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I am an undergraduate accounting student who would like to get a job with the federal or state government. My freshman year of college was a mess.  I used drugs for a while mostly pot and even sold mushrooms a few times.(bad decision) Sad

I no longer use drugs of any kind.  I am not a dishonest person I have never stolen or cheated.  I understand the CIA would never take me but would I have a shot with the IRS?  Do they polygraph test?  How about the government of CA?
Posted by: nomegusto
Posted on: Dec 25th, 2008 at 4:30pm
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Border Patrol
ICE
CBP

Use Polygraph on a case by case basis for now. But expect them to implement it full time in the near future.
Posted by: lawlizard
Posted on: Oct 29th, 2008 at 9:58pm
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Michigan is free of polygraphs, no department conducts them.
Posted by: Fred F.
Posted on: Oct 19th, 2007 at 1:09am
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Hi All,

I dug this up from an earlier post and it is still accuarte

You can try the CA Youth Authority, CA Dept. of Corrections, CA State Parole and many other state LE agencies except the CA Dept of Justice(they do poly), The LA Unified School District Police use the poly now, LA Airport Police and The Port of Los Angeles Police are agencies that do NOT poly.  
 
Another point to remember is that that you found this website and you can learn the truth and get educated. Consider applying to other agencies that use a poly, read The Lie Behind The Lie Detector and be ready to pass  
 
You can check the CA state personnel board site for state LE jobs www.spb.ca.gov

Fred F. Wink
Posted by: Fly_boy
Posted on: Oct 12th, 2007 at 6:16pm
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California Dept. of Corrections does not Polly.  The DOD Police do not Poly.  I would think that most University Police do not Polly as well.  I think that the SDSherrif Dept. does polly but their limitations on drugs is not so bad.  Not sure about SD city police though.
Posted by: rice80
Posted on: Oct 9th, 2007 at 3:07am
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Hey JB,

The US Border and Customs Patrol don't polygraph, Abuddy of mine just got hired last  year and he was never poly'd.

Rice
Posted by: 2525
Posted on: Sep 6th, 2007 at 12:17am
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Did you guys know that it's really scientifically possible to detect if a person has ever used (non-polar molecule, e.g. marijuana) drugs in their entire lives?  Simply obtain through liposuction a 50 gm sample of human fat, extract and concentrate it.  Then use readily available instrumentation to quantify and characterize.  Um, the missing fat cells may be rapidly replaced by consuming vast quantities of Dankin Donets.

So, it is not necessary for law enforcement to use unreliable polygraph testing to discern drug usage history.  Real science may be utilized.
Posted by: PentaFed - Ex Member
Posted on: Sep 2nd, 2007 at 2:43am
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As far as I know Rhode Island departments do not use the test either.
Posted by: triple x
Posted on: Feb 11th, 2007 at 9:55am
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Darkclaw,

Mr._ Olympia fails to understand that the information he disclosed in the referenced polygraph was obviously within acceptable parameters IAW the LE agency policies in which he applied. Even the FBI accepts a small degree of drug use as long as it does not exceed the acceptable parameters as set forth.

triple x

Posted by: Lord_Darkclaw
Posted on: Feb 6th, 2007 at 4:02pm
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"Even" admitted more?
shouldn't that simply read "I admitted more"?
maybe you passed because you DID admit.

I'm totally anti-polygraph but you've got to come up with a more convincing argument than that.
 
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