Trust and Polygraphs

Started by George Maschke (Guest), Dec 03, 2000, 10:20 AM

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George Maschke (Guest)

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In an article on page A02 of today's (1 Dec. 2000) Washington
Post entitled, "CIA Shuts Chatroom, Suspends 10, Fires 4,"
staff writer Vernon Loeb reports on CIA's disciplinary
actions against employees who participated in an unauthorized
computer chatroom. Loeb writes in part:

    One senior intelligence official responded that
    senior CIA management felt compelled to take action
    because the organizers of the hidden chat rooms
    deliberately deceived their superiors. "The issue
    here," the official said, "is violation of trust,"
    not just some "off-color" e-mail.
    
The entire Washington Post article may be read on-line here:

http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7159-2000Nov30.html

Senior CIA management needs to realize that trust is a two-
way street. These CIA employees were disciplined for
deliberately deceiving their supervisors, yet these same
supervisors feel at liberty to deliberately deceive every CIA
employee through the polygraph screening process. As Loeb's
anonymous senior intelligence official piously observed,
"the issue here is violation of trust."

Writing to the Federation of American Scientists from the
federal penitentiary at Allenwood, Pennsylvania, convicted spy
Aldrich H. Ames offered some insight into why the polygraph is
so attractive to senior bureaucrats:

    Most people in the intelligence and CI business are
    well aware of the theoretical and practical
    failings of the polygraph, but are equally alert to
    its value in institutional, bureaucratic terms and
    treasure its use accordingly. This same logic
    applies to its use in screening potential and
    current employees, whether of the CIA, NSA, DOE or
    even of private organizations.
    
    Deciding whether to trust or credit a person is
    always an uncertain task, and in a variety of
    situations a bad, lazy or just unlucky decision
    about a person can result not only in serious
    problems for the organization and its purposes, but
    in career-damaging blame for the unfortunate
    decision-maker. Here, the polygraph is a scientific
    godsend: the bureaucrat accounting for a bad
    decision, or sometimes for a missed opportunity
    (the latter is much less often questioned in a
    bureaucracy) can point to what is considered an
    unassailably objective, though occasionally and
    unavoidably fallible, polygraph judgment. All that
    was at fault was some practical application of a
    "scientific" technique, like those frozen O-rings,
    or the sandstorms between the Gulf and Desert One
    in 1980.
    
The entire text of Ames' letter can be read on-line here:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/polygraph/ames.html

It will be recalled that Ames passed two CIA polygraph
"tests" while spying for the Soviet Union and later, Russia.
For more on the CIA's use of the polygraph in the Ames case,
see pp. 11-16 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector (503 kb):

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

AntiPolygraph.org is working to hold those people in the
intelligence and counterintelligence business who knowingly
continue to rely on unreliable polygraph "testing"
accountable for their actions, and to warn employees and
prospective employees about the trickery which is being
practiced against them through the polygraph process.

We have recently learned from Al Zelicoff at Sandia National
Laboratories that it is Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
Chairman Richard Shelby (R-AL) who is responsible for the
insertion of language into the Fiscal Year 2001 Defense
Authorization Act that makes polygraph screening mandatory
for an additional 5,000 Department of Energy employees and
contractors, raising the total number of affected persons to
some 20,000. Dr. Zelicoff's unanswered letter to Senator
Shelby about polygraph screening may be read on the
AntiPolygraph.org website at:

http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-006.shtml

Those 5,000 additional employees to be polygraphed might want to
ask Senator Shelby the question I asked Secretary of Energy Bill
Richardson on 12 October 2000:

    What is the Department of Energy's policy regarding
    those employees and contractors who, because of
    their understanding of "the lie behind the lie
    detector," are unsuitable candidates for
    polygraphic interrogation?
    
The entire letter, which I also copied to Senator Shelby,
among others, may be read on-line at:

http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-005.shtml

The Secretary never responded. Neither did Senator Shelby.

George Maschke
AntiPolygraph.org



heavyrunner

I need some help.  I have a mentally ill daughter who has a history of false accusations.   Recently she passed a polygraph test.  Is there info on this out there

George W. Maschke

heavyrunner,

What sort of information are you looking for?

For information on the scientific status of the "Control Question Test" (by far the most widely used polygraph technique), see Chapter 1 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. You'll find a fuller explanation of how the "test" actually works in Chapter 3, and in Chapter 4, you'll learn how anyone -- truthful or untruthful -- can pass these asinine "tests."

By the way, to start a new message thread (instead of posting a message in one that is unrelated to your question), go to the forum in which you want to post and click the "new thread" button near the top of the window.
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