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Polygraph and CVSA Forums => Polygraph Procedure => Topic started by: anonymouse on Sep 05, 2002, 05:52 PM

Title: Doug Williams
Post by: anonymouse on Sep 05, 2002, 05:52 PM
It looks like Dougie Williams of "Sting the Polygraph" fame has some major heartburn with this website. Check it out:
 
http://www.polygraph.com/faq.html
 
QuoteQ. Is this information available elsewhere?

FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LET ME  GIVE YOU THIS TIP. IF YOU CAN'T CALL AND GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THE AUTHOR, AND IF THE AUTHOR DOES NOT HAVE EXPERT POLYGRAPH CREDENTIALS THAT HAVE BEEN VERIFIED, DON'T BUY THEIR MANUAL AND/OR DON'T TAKE THEIR ADVICE. I CAN VERIFY MY CREDENTIALS AND I WILL TALK TO YOU IN PERSON. THERE ARE SOME OUTRIGHT FRAUDS WHO REALLY HAVE NO EXPERTISE AND WON'T EVEN SAY WHERE EXACTLY THEY RAN POLYGRAPH TESTS, (WHICH THEY NEVER DID) - AND SOME LOSERS WHOSE ONLY EXPERIENCE WITH THE POLYGRAPH IS THAT THEY ONCE FLUNKED A TEST - ALL TELLING YOU HOW TO PASS A POLYGRAPH TEST.  Polygraphers often brag that they have caught many people using "countermeasures". I can tell you that the only ones they catch are those who get bad information - don't trust your test results to some unknown so called polygraph expert who won't even talk to you on the phone, or to someone whose only experience with the polygraph is that they once flunked a test. There are always a couple of new sites on the web with some guys giving out advice on how to pass a polygraph - they come and they go. Information from older out of date versions of my manual has been plagiarized, paraphrased, and outright stolen many times over the years by many different people for many different reasons. Some of them have changed it a bit, (perhaps to avoid being such obvious thieves), or added and deleted a little bit here and there, (so it looks like they have actually had an original thought). But all that really does is make their material confusing and unreliable. I have read this information, and believe me it is not good enough to prepare you to pass the test. And don't bother asking them questions - they don't know any more than you do, and I sure would not go to them for advice on how to pass my polygraph test.

  ;D
Title: Re: Doug Williams
Post by: Anonymous on Sep 05, 2002, 06:23 PM
Although Mr. Williams (assuming he is the author of your quote) doesn't specify who he is criticizing, if it were to be the authors of TLBTLD (who have willingly given away the results of their better researched, more thoroughly documented, and far better-written text), I think we would have to look very carefully at the source of his frustration and the motivation for his criticism  :)  Besides, and more importantly...as I recall, David Lykken was making countermeasure advice available (again at no cost to the client) decades before Mr. Williams was even doing polygraph exams.  Dr. Lykken, perhaps unlike any other, has demonstrated for half a century that one doesn't need to have polluted himself  through employment as a polygrapher in order to either understand (and expose) the foolishness of lie detection polygraphy or to be able, at will, to manipulate the results of these "tests".