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Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: fatbob on May 15, 2020, 03:23 PM
Great list, I had a discussion with a polygrapher, and how my opinion of the polygraph was voodoo science, i mentioned Ames and Ridgeway, and the problem with the false positive and Melvyn Foster.  He called me ignorant and didn't know what I was talking about. 
Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: troll_of_truth on Jun 10, 2022, 09:16 PM
Here is a June 2022 updated story on Joshua Schulte:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/13/the-surreal-case-of-a-cia-hackers-revenge

It sounds like Schulte had the motive and opportunity to commit the CIA Vault 7 leak out of spite.  However, to this day, the CIA still cannot convict him.  Schulte still has not gone to trial for child porn and sexual assault.  The polygraph-passing Schulte could very well beat these charges, and prove that the polygraph is useless on those informed about it.  This is why everyone should understand how the polygraph works.  The main rule is to just relax and not confess to anything!
Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: RobbieG on Jun 13, 2022, 12:12 PM
2001 - Robert Philip Hanssen - veteran FBI agent - spied for USSR and Russia from 1979 until he was arrested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

2015 - Carl Force - DEA agent -  extortion, money laundering and obstruction of justice in connection with the Silk Road case.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/corrupt-silk-road-dea-agent-carl-force-gets-over-6-n447466

2017 - Shaun W. Bridges - Secret Service agent on the Silk Road task force convicted of money laundering and theft.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-secret-service-agent-sentenced-scheme-related-silk-road-investigation


Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jun 14, 2022, 03:38 AM
Quote from: George_Maschke on Jun 13, 2022, 12:12 PM2001 - Robert Philip Hanssen - veteran FBI agent - spied for USSR and Russia from 1979 until he was arrested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

Note that Hanssen was never polygraphed during his FBI employment. He joined the FBI years before the Bureau implemented mandatory pre-employment polygraph screening.

In fact, it was in response to the Hanssen espionage case that the FBI vastly expanded its polygraph screening of current employees. In doing so, the FBI completely disregarded the advice of its senior scientific expert on polygraphy, the late Dr. Drew C. Richardson. See his memorandum, "Polygraph Screening in Light of the Robert Hanssen Espionage Investigation." (https://antipolygraph.org/documents/richardson-memo-02-2001.shtml)
Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: RobbieG on Jun 14, 2022, 11:26 AM
Thank you for the correction on Hanssen. I forgot that the polygraphy fetish is a relatively recent phenomenon from the last 20 years or so.
Title: Re: List: U.S. Fed Employee Criminals - All Passed Polys
Post by: troll_of_truth on Jul 25, 2022, 09:22 AM
On July 13, 2022, a jury found Schulte guilty on all accounts.  At his first trial Schulte was found guilty of contempt of court and of making false statements to the F.B.I. though the jury hung on the Vault 7 leaks.  Now he has been convicted on nine counts related to the Vault 7 leaks, which included illegally gathering national defense information and illegally transmitting that information.  No sentencing date has been set.

He is still facing child porn charges too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/nyregion/cia-engineer-joshua-schulte-theft-convicted.html