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Title: Request for Assistance
Post by: Administrator on Feb 28, 2018, 09:35 AM
Would you kindly do a Google search for "polygraph" and let us know on what page (if any) of the search results AntiPolygraph.org appears?
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: quickfix on Feb 28, 2018, 02:30 PM
4th page, 5th entry down from the top.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: beat_the_system on Mar 01, 2018, 07:34 PM
Using the Hong Kong, China Google search, I don't see Antipolygraph.org anywhere within the first 10 pages of searching just the word "polygraph".  Why do you ask, Admin?  Do you think Google is in cahoots with the U.S. Federal Government to shut down your search ranking so people don't find out the "lie behind the lie detector"?
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Administrator on Mar 02, 2018, 06:28 AM
Quote from: quickfix on Feb 28, 2018, 02:30 PM4th page, 5th entry down from the top.

Thank you. That is the highest ranking reported to date.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Administrator on Mar 02, 2018, 06:34 AM
Quote from: beat_the_system on Mar 01, 2018, 07:34 PMUsing the Hong Kong, China Google search, I don't see Antipolygraph.org anywhere within the first 10 pages of searching just the word "polygraph".  Why do you ask, Admin?  Do you think Google is in cahoots with the U.S. Federal Government to shut down your search ranking so people don't find out the "lie behind the lie detector"?

Thank you. This seems to be a typical result worldwide. AntiPolygraph.org had long been one of the top Google search results for "polygraph." But its ranking has fallen precipitously for reasons unknown to us.

Google Search Analytics reports that worldwide, over the last 28 days, there were only 6 clicks on links to AntiPolygraph.org resulting from the search term "polygraph."

We welcome thoughts on why this may be so.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Wandersmann on Mar 02, 2018, 07:40 PM
Quote from: 60656C686F010 on Mar 02, 2018, 06:34 AMWe welcome thoughts on why this may be so.

No one seems to be posting anymore. 
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: beat_the_system on Mar 03, 2018, 01:54 AM
Could the ranking have dropped around the same time you started requiring visitors to sign up before posting, hence banning all guest posting?  People are more likely to post as a guest because they think they are more anonymous.  It takes time to create a fake email just to join a website if you do not want you real email address linked to your account. 

One conspiracy thought is that Google is secretly run by the NSA.  With smart-technology and devices like Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa, the government has way to monitor everyone's home.  Heck, Amazon has become a monopoly and is already working with the CIA (http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-web-services-launches-secret-region-2017-11). I can tell you that the federal government does not like Antipolygraph.org because the information in TLBTLD is true.  I was able to beat a federal polygraph with it.  If you mention this website at all during pre-employment processing for an IC job, you will get rejecting and they will put a note in your file that you visited this site that you will see if you file a FOIA/PA request.  Anyway, the point is that the U.S. government may be working with Google and other U.S.-based search engines behind closed doors to reduce the search ranking of Antipolygraph.org so less people learn how to beat the stupid machine.  Of course, this is just a conspiracy theory.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Wandersmann on Mar 03, 2018, 04:08 PM
Quote from: beat_the_system on Mar 03, 2018, 01:54 AMAnyway, the point is that the U.S. government may be working with Google and other U.S.-based search engines behind closed doors to reduce the search ranking of Antipolygraph.org so less people learn how to beat the stupid machine.  Of course, this is just a conspiracy theory.

An interesting development is that more and more college and universities are teaching about this massive fraud and more and more students across America are learning the nitty gritty of how the polygraph works.  The Nazi's in the polygraph community would never dare to try to squelch university professors who are dealing in cold, hard, unclassified facts when they expose the fraud behind the polygraph.   It would constitute the largest 1st amendment violation of all time.   So eventually the polygraph Nazi's will be rejecting solid candidates for information learned in an academic course required to graduate in many cases.  By that time we may have ethical people in our government to finally figure out how absurd this entire thing is and just stop the polygraph fraud.  :)
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Administrator on Jun 29, 2018, 03:14 AM
It is now clear that Google is suppressing AntiPolygraph.org in search results for key terms including "polygraph," "polygraphs," "lie detector," and "lie detectors," and that this is not a transient issue:

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2018/06/28/google-de-lists-antipolygraph-org-on-key-search-terms/
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jun 29, 2018, 07:34 AM
I have posted an inquiry on Google's Webmaster Central Help Forum:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/webmasters/YO0jYLfb-VM;context-place=forum/webmasters
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: quickfix on Jun 29, 2018, 01:19 PM
George, when I type in "antipolygraph", in the Google search box, antipolygraph.org is the very first listing.  Somehow I don't think Google is in cahoots with the federal government to delist you.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: Dan Mangan on Jun 29, 2018, 08:19 PM
Speaking as a full member of the American Polygraph Association -- and a perennial candidate for the office of APA president-elect running on a true open-book platform -- I am hardly surprised.

Countermeasures, when aptly applied (not hard to do if you're smart), can work exceedingly well.

My hunch is that in the wake of the government's highly publicized "Operation Liebusters," enlightened applicants (and others, such as sex offenders) undergoing the polygraph are beating the "test" at record levels.

Make no mistake: The polygraph countermeasure bogeyman is real.

Hence, I personally believe that George's claim of Google "delisting" searches meaningfully linked to www.antipolygraph.org is indeed legitimate.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jun 30, 2018, 10:13 AM
Interestingly, U.S. Custom and Border Protection's "Polygraph Exam FAQS" page is now among the top 10 Google search results for "polygraph."
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: John M. on Jun 30, 2018, 01:41 PM
Quote from: quickfix on Jun 29, 2018, 01:19 PMwhen I type in "antipolygraph", in the Google search box, antipolygraph.org is the very first listing.
Once again, you display your inability to read and comprehend. The search term is "polygraph", not "antipolygraph".
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: quickfix on Jun 30, 2018, 03:38 PM
that's okay;  I can read and comprehend my LES that shows me as a GS-15; and you're not.
Title: Update Regarding Google De-Listing of AntiPolygraph.org on "Polygraph"
Post by: George W. Maschke on Jun 30, 2018, 04:05 PM
As noted in an update to the blog posting (https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2018/06/28/google-de-lists-antipolygraph-org-on-key-search-terms/), the situation with Google's de-listing of AntiPolygraph.org seems to be worse than I imagined. The following is a screenshot from Google Search Console Beta:

(https://antipolygraph.org/graphics/google-search-console-ap-org-polygraph-18-months-2018-06-30.png)

The chart shows that over the past 16 months, Google reports 146,576 impressions for the search word "polygraph," with an average position of 8.4, but only 381 total clicks, for an average click through rate of just 0.3%.

And both impressions and, as a natural consequence, click throughs, have flatlined since March.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: webghost on Sep 09, 2021, 07:42 AM
As of today, September 9, 2021,

If you use the search "polygraph" with the search engine Yandex.com in the Chrome browser, there is a hit for Antipolygraph.org on the second page, which would be the 17th result.

If you use the search "polygraph" with the search engine Yandex.com in the Tor browser, there is a link on the first page at the very bottom for Antipolygraph.org, about the 10th result.

If you use the search "polygraph" with the search engine Yandex.com in the Epic browser  (https://www.epicbrowser.com/)(which has built-in VPNs), there is a link on the first page for Antipolygraph.org, about the 7th result.

Searching "polygraph" in Google with the Chrome browser yields no results on the first five pages, so I stopped looking after that.

It is not uncommon for Google to block controversial topics either by choice or secret government order.  If you Google sites like purenudism.com, enaturelive.com, or bebaretoo.com, you will not get any results that show those actual websites.  However, Yandex search engine will show them.  Those websites are hosted in the U.S. and feature family nudity which is perfectly legal in the U.S.  All of those sites are run by the same people and they have had their fair share of legal battles to which they prevailed.  Since those sites feature child nudity, U.S. search engines like Google just gave up and blocked them.  Yandex is a Russian search engine and Russia somewhat legalizes child nudity, or they just don't care, and will show those sites and similar sites.  Same thing with this antipolygraph website.  The U.S. government deemed this site too controversial so since they have no legal course to take it down, they just had the U.S. search engines block it.  Other  non-U.S. search engines will still show this site with a "polygraph" keyword search.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: quickfix on Sep 09, 2021, 02:19 PM
If you google "antipolygraph", it is the first listing.
Title: Another Update Regarding Google De-Listing of AntiPolygraph.org on "Polygraph"
Post by: George W. Maschke on Sep 11, 2021, 04:37 AM
Google's effective de-listing of AntiPolygraph.org on the search term "polygraph" continues, and if anything, is even worse than the last time (in 2018) that I posted an update to this thread. The following is a screen shot from Google Search Console:

(https://antipolygraph.org/graphics/google-search-console-ap-org-polygraph-18-months-2021-09-11.png)

The chart shows that over the past 16 months, Google reports 26.6 thousand impressions for the search word "polygraph," with an average position of 24.9, and only 90 total clicks, for an average click through rate of just 0.3%.

In my opinion, something is not kosher here.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: E. Owen on Sep 14, 2021, 09:38 PM
George

Have you checked the search stats on the other engines:

1.  BING

2.  YAHOO

Searches of BING and YAHOO here in Toronto rank you real high.  Same thing goes for Google for the most part.

Supposedly BING is getting more and more popular.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: George W. Maschke on Sep 15, 2021, 01:19 AM
E. Owen,

Yahoo serves results from Bing, and Bing Webmaster tools also shows virtually no traffic to AntiPolygraph.org based on keyword searches for "polygraph." The following screenshot indicates that over the past three months, Bing searches for "polygraph" yielded one click on AntiPolygraph.org:

(https://antipolygraph.org/graphics/microsoft-bing-webmaster-tools-ap-org-polygraph-3-months-2021-09-15.png)

In any event, Google searches are the metric that matters most, because Google commands about 90% of the global search market.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: RobbieG on Sep 18, 2021, 04:34 PM
George,

Is it possible to confirm that Google is indeed manipulating something here? I don't know much about this stuff, but I wonder if an SEO expert or someone like that could run some kind of experiment.
Title: Re: Request for Assistance
Post by: George W. Maschke on Sep 19, 2021, 04:29 PM
Quote from: RobbieG on Sep 18, 2021, 04:34 PMGeorge,

Is it possible to confirm that Google is indeed manipulating something here? I don't know much about this stuff, but I wonder if an SEO expert or someone like that could run some kind of experiment.

I am not aware of any kind of experiment that could be done to confirm or disconfirm this.