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Title: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: braden761 on Jun 01, 2011, 12:13 PM
Can anyone suggest how to successfully refute accusations of countermeasures other then saying that you did not use them?
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: stefano on Jun 01, 2011, 12:25 PM
Quote from: braden761 on Jun 01, 2011, 12:13 PMCan anyone suggest how to successfully refute accusations of countermeasures other then saying that you did not use them? 
"Countermeasures? What are they? You mean this test can be beat? I thought you said it couldn't?" That would be my response.
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: braden761 on Jun 01, 2011, 12:39 PM
Well I took two test and both came back inconclusive and I did a FOIA request and it stated strong evidence of countermeasures were suspected.

This was for the FBI? Does the FBI policy allow you to retest if they suspect countermeasures?
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: stefano on Jun 02, 2011, 12:14 AM
Quote from: braden761 on Jun 01, 2011, 12:39 PMWell I took two test and both came back inconclusive and I did a FOIA request and it stated strong evidence of countermeasures were suspected. 
Utter balderdash! Consider it a blessing, find a job where you don't have to deal with such folly.
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: Bill_Brown on Jun 02, 2011, 01:45 AM
Bradin761,

Did you use countermeasures?  If so what did you use, this is not an accusation, only a question.  Please don't be offended. 
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: who wants to know on Jun 02, 2011, 04:53 AM
Sounds to me that Bill Brown wants to know what countermeasures you used. As polygraphers also read this i would have to respectfully say "do not answer that question" Branden761. If he wants to know let him read the  "The Lie behind the Lie Detector Test"  ;) Noticed i said Respectfully Bill Brown.
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: Bill_Brown on Jun 02, 2011, 02:14 PM
QuoteSounds to me that Bill Brown wants to know what countermeasures you used.


I am a polygraph examiner, and I did note "Respectfully", thank you. 

Did you use countermeasures?  And I have a copy of TLBTLD on my book shelf, I have read it and studied it extensively. 

Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: braden761 on Jun 05, 2011, 05:29 PM
When I took the test I never even heard of countermeasures. So to answer your question, no I did not use countermeasures. I answered the questions as he asked them. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: How to successfully refute accusation of countermeasures?
Post by: Bill_Brown on Jun 05, 2011, 08:13 PM
I would request another examination if you want to work for that agency and explain you did not use countermeasures and would like to have the opportunity to retake the examination.