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Polygraph and CVSA Forums => The Lie Behind the Lie Detector => Topic started by: rawform on Sep 22, 2010, 02:52 AM

Title: Regarding breathing, stim test and post test interrogation
Post by: rawform on Sep 22, 2010, 02:52 AM
Hi,
I'll start by telling you that I have read TLBTLD. I have read chapter 3 and 4 two times and will continue to read them until I am confident that I will pass a polygraph. I plan on applying for an LE in my area within a year or so. I will not lie to the background investigator about anything in my past. But I am not going to end up a false positive. It is unfortunate that I have to use this book for my advantage rather than being an advocate for antipolygraph.org. I am very thankful that this book is available.
Frist question, on page 145 it says to breath relatively shallow-not deep-breaths. I am trying to find out how deep is to deep and how shallow is to shallow? I have practiced the 2-4 sec rule and it seems to leave me short of breath from time to time.
Second question, on page 150 it says, you can make your polygrapher think your a "screamer," and he wont be suprised when you react strongly to the "control' questions. My question: Do I maintain my breathing during the stim test and let my mind do the "screaming" for me? Or do I employ countermeasures during the number or card that I picked to ensure that I am indeed a "screamer?"
Third question: On page 154 you are adamant about NOT staying for a post test iterrogation. My question: If I have passed the polygraph ( Im awear that the polygrapher will most likely not notify my passing or failing) will the polygrapher ask me to stay for a post test and if i refuse like I am advised will this look bad on the report the polygrapher sends to my background investigator? Or should I stay for the post test and continue to maintain my innocence until it is over?

Agen thank you for TLBTLD,
                                      Rawform.
Title: Re: Regarding breathing, stim test and post test interrogation
Post by: George W. Maschke on Sep 22, 2010, 04:35 AM
Quote from: wayne96 on Sep 22, 2010, 02:52 AMFrist question, on page 145 it says to breath relatively shallow-not deep-breaths. I am trying to find out how deep is to deep and how shallow is to shallow? I have practiced the 2-4 sec rule and it seems to leave me short of breath from time to time.

It's hard to quantify how deep to breathe, but if you find yourself having to take catch-up breaths, then it would be reasonable to breath more deeply than you have been doing.

QuoteSecond question, on page 150 it says, you can make your polygrapher think your a "screamer," and he wont be suprised when you react strongly to the "control' questions. My question: Do I maintain my breathing during the stim test and let my mind do the "screaming" for me? Or do I employ countermeasures during the number or card that I picked to ensure that I am indeed a "screamer?"

What we're suggesting here is to produce a reaction to the number or card you chose during the stim test. Such a reaction can be produced with mental countermeasures (such as doing mental arithmetic) or physical countermeasures (such as tongue-biting). Either of these techniques is likely to also produce a breathing reaction without your having to think about it.

QuoteThird question: On page 154 you are adamant about NOT staying for a post test iterrogation. My question: If I have passed the polygraph ( Im awear that the polygrapher will most likely not notify my passing or failing) will the polygrapher ask me to stay for a post test and if i refuse like I am advised will this look bad on the report the polygrapher sends to my background investigator? Or should I stay for the post test and continue to maintain my innocence until it is over?

It's okay to explain, if asked for an explanation, why you might have reacted to a question. But if that explanation is rejected and you're subjected to further grilling, then it is time to politely end the interrogation and leave.
Title: Re: Regarding breathing, stim test and post test interrogation
Post by: rawform on Sep 22, 2010, 01:57 PM
Thank you for the quick reponse. If I have any other questions I will not hesitate to ask.