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Polygraph and CVSA Forums => Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience => Topic started by: RuinedOverCVSA on Sep 28, 2009, 02:41 PM

Title: Took a CVSA.. Now know for sure they are BS
Post by: RuinedOverCVSA on Sep 28, 2009, 02:41 PM
I had to take one and was being told I was lying about being arrested in the past.

Im former military and never even had a negative entry on my service record book.  i knew for years this is what i wanted to do and was NEVER in trouble. i dont even have a speeding ticket

well now i dont get to be a LEO because this test deemed me a liar when ive never done anything wrong in my life other than minor stuff THAT I TOLD THEM ABOUT. 

so now im fucked and wishing i had just re-enlisted instead of dealing with this phaggotry.

i was trusted with top secret information in the military but im lying about never being arrested in my life now right? fuck this stupid test.
Title: Re: Took a CVSA.. Now know for sure they are BS
Post by: RuinedOverCVSA on Oct 20, 2009, 02:02 PM
took a poly and guess what I'm a liar again!  only this time Im a liar about stealing stuff and nothing showed up about being arrested LOL   these things are such bullshit thank GOD they are not admissible in court.
Title: No reliability? No validity.
Post by: Knightshaiid on Oct 28, 2009, 11:52 AM
I'm not a scientist, but:

Although she has to explain it to me every single time I bring it up, my wife who IS a scientist for a living says that without reliability (in other words the same results over and over and over again) a test has no validity.

Think of it this way: is a scale telling you that you weigh 110 lbs on Monday, 350 lbs on Tuesday and 60 lbs on Wednesday giving valid results? No.

Your lack of consistent results absolutely proves this website's thesis:  these tests are junk science.
Title: Re: Took a CVSA.. Now know for sure they are BS
Post by: George W. Maschke on Oct 28, 2009, 12:10 PM
Quote from: Knightshaiid on Oct 28, 2009, 11:52 AMAlthough she has to explain it to me every single time I bring it up, my wife who IS a scientist for a living says that without reliability (in other words the same results over and over and over again) a test has no validity.

She's right, and it's not surprising that the Defense Academy for Credibility Assessment, which in addition to training all federal polygraph operators also controls federal funding of polygraph research, studiously avoids examining the test-retest reliability of polygraphy. Care to guess why?

With regard to CVSA, which was the original poster's concern, I don't think there is any test-retest reliability research either. But anecdotally, when given access to a CVSA computer by a friend who was trained in its use, just repeatedly saying "no" into the microphone without any question having been asked produced wildly varying results: truthful sometimes, not truthful others...
Title: Re: Took a CVSA.. Now know for sure they are BS
Post by: RuinedOverCVSA on Nov 28, 2009, 10:21 AM
update.. ive now PASSED 5 other polys .. I love this machine rofl.